Aston Villa v Hull City Post Match Thread

[Lastfootstamper]

I was going to put in a note about it not being an autocorrect! I'm sticking with "shot" because he used to be pretty good, I thought he was a very good signing at the time, but there's something about his manner that suggests his head really is not in the game any more.

[Legion]

Perhaps that tackle has affected him psychologically?

[Lastfootstamper]

If it really is that bad, he's doing neither us nor himself many favours by stoically soldiering on.

[SashasGrandad]

Few mentions of the shenanigans that led to the 22 man handbag episode, not quite sure what happened but it appeared that Houlihane said he’d give them the ball back from the drop and then didn’t. Anyone closer in the Trinity Lower clear that up?

Yeah it looked like Hull and also the referee were expecting Hourihane to give the drop ball to them. It's not clear why or whether Hourihane reneged on his word. If he did it's a bit shitty to be honest.

Fucks me off, giving the ball back. If you want to give it back, then don't contest it. Otherwise, it's a drop ball, just get on with it, as the people will say these days.

Anyway, when it all kicked off, my focus was down the touchline, getting peeved as once again Taylor ran off the pitch to make himself unavailable as a receiver for a quick throw from the winger, insisting on getting all the way there to take it himself. Every time, he does it. I think he's totally shot.

If a team puts the ball out when an opponent is injured fair enough - give the ball back. BUT this was given for a clash of heads between 2 players - right for ref to check they were OK - then as there was no fault either side it should be a contested drop ball. Modern day players are too cissy to have a go. I think the last decent contested drop ball was Dublin and Savage - no prisoners taken there. May have been the spark for Dion's well placed header in a later game.

Having watched the highlights - it looks like the Hull player backs away hoping Conor will give them the ball. Conor has every right not to give it back. It was not a case of a Villa player being injured when Hull had the ball.

[Chris Smith]

We have been "patient", for years. We've also been "rebuilding", for years.

We haven’t been rebuilding, how can it be when we have so many loans and ageing players? Rebuilding implies some sort of plan when the reality is that it’s all been about short term fixes and it patently hasn’t worked.

[LukeJames]

We have been "patient", for years. We've also been "rebuilding", for years.

Mate, we have spent every minute of every day since we got relegated looking for the quick fix to get promoted asap, nothing since we came down can be classed as rebuilding.

[Villa75]

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?

[Chris Smith]

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?

Only if you use it to learn from your mistakes.

[The Edge]

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?

Only if you use it to learn from your mistakes.

Kerboom!!

[AlexAlexCropley]

Perhaps that tackle has affected him psychologically?

🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

[Risso]

Few mentions of the shenanigans that led to the 22 man handbag episode, not quite sure what happened but it appeared that Houlihane said he’d give them the ball back from the drop and then didn’t. Anyone closer in the Trinity Lower clear that up?

Yeah it looked like Hull and also the referee were expecting Hourihane to give the drop ball to them. It's not clear why or whether Hourihane reneged on his word. If he did it's a bit shitty to be honest.

Fucks me off, giving the ball back. If you want to give it back, then don't contest it. Otherwise, it's a drop ball, just get on with it, as the people will say these days.

Anyway, when it all kicked off, my focus was down the touchline, getting peeved as once again Taylor ran off the pitch to make himself unavailable as a receiver for a quick throw from the winger, insisting on getting all the way there to take it himself. Every time, he does it. I think he's totally shot.

If a team puts the ball out when an opponent is injured fair enough - give the ball back. BUT this was given for a clash of heads between 2 players - right for ref to check they were OK - then as there was no fault either side it should be a contested drop ball. Modern day players are too cissy to have a go. I think the last decent contested drop ball was Dublin and Savage - no prisoners taken there. May have been the spark for Dion's well placed header in a later game.

Having watched the highlights - it looks like the Hull player backs away hoping Conor will give them the ball. Conor has every right not to give it back. It was not a case of a Villa player being injured when Hull had the ball.

There was one in the Old Firm game recently, it was brilliant, looked like a kickboxing contest!

[Villa75]

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?

Only if you use it to learn from your mistakes.

You think we have? I'm not so sure.

[eamonn]

Perhaps that tackle has affected him psychologically?

Nah, he was shite before that too, Swansea fans were happy to see him go.

[stuart445]

I think its more to do with smith being a no-name. When Bruce took over he started well and then had a shit period during january and i don't remember everyone picking holes in him because it was Steve Bruce. It does worry me that Smith maybe hasn't got the authority to be given time to sort it out.

Then you have a very short memory, people were picking holes in Bruce right from  the start

[Nunkin1965]

I think its more to do with smith being a no-name. When Bruce took over he started well and then had a shit period during january and i don't remember everyone picking holes in him because it was Steve Bruce. It does worry me that Smith maybe hasn't got the authority to be given time to sort it out.

Then you have a very short memory, people were picking holes in Bruce right from  the start

I think it happens with all new appointments. Not everybody is going to be happy.