Aston Villa 0-3 Swansea City Post Match Thread

[darren woolley]

The game was rubbish highlight for me having a chat with Dave Woodhall at half time.

[Walmley_Villa]

The fact Swansea made only 2 changes and targeted our left side made the difference. We saw the "strength" of squad that Bruce left us with. O'hare needs a mobile ball winner to get the ball for him and protect him which Whelan isn't. Kodja and Lansbury were the only players who looked up for it when they came on. Deano can say he gave some players a chance to impress and they failed.

Was it any worse than the Peterborough defeat last season considering the opposition?

[PeterWithe]

Deano can say he gave some players a chance to impress and they failed.

This was a feature of the Bruce period as well, on the occassions that young or fringe players had a chance they rarely took it and gave him selection problems.

[Walmley_Villa]

Deano can say he gave some players a chance to impress and they failed.

This was a feature of the Bruce period as well, on the occassions that young or fringe players had a chance they rarely took it and gave him selection problems.

There is a big shift in culture required at the club which will take time that i hope the club and fans give the management and board.

[Risso]

Deano can say he gave some players a chance to impress and they failed.

This was a feature of the Bruce period as well, on the occassions that young or fringe players had a chance they rarely took it and gave him selection problems.

I just think it's entirely the wrong way to be going about things as far as the young players are concerned.  Somebody like O'Hare should be getting 20-30 minutes at the end of league games.  Just thrusting them into some dog's arse of a team in a one off cup game and saying "there you go, you've got once chance to impress me" achieves absolutely nothing as far as I can see.  Think back to when we had the likes of Albrighton making cameo appearances for Young and Downing in the Pubehead days.  A much better way of going about things in my opinion.  Because let's face it, how many games has Hogan influenced when coming on as a sub?  How many goals has he scored when coming off the bench?  He normally has about 4-5 touches tops, amd does absolutely nothing.

[Walmley_Villa]

I'm guessing the idea was that O'Hare could be threading balls through for Hogan to run on to which is how he scored many of his Brentford goals. The problem with that for Villa is that it works if we get the first goal and the opposition have to push up for a goal leaving opportunities for a break. When they get the first goal like in Saturday the plan goes out of the window and Hogan becomes even more ineffective. 

[aj2k77]

Hogan just isn't the answer to any problem we have, he scored a few goals for Rochdale in the micky mouse leagues and what? 20 odd for Brentford? Realistically his value should have been around £4/5m nowhere near the pants pulled down amount Potato the useless fucker paid for him when he went on his Championship manager spending spree when he took over.

[auntiesledd]

Deano can say he gave some players a chance to impress and they failed.

This was a feature of the Bruce period as well, on the occassions that young or fringe players had a chance they rarely took it and gave him selection problems.

There is a big shift in culture required at the club which will take time that i hope the club and fans give the management and board.

I completely concur.

That said, I can't help but wonder how long the owners are (cough) prepared to back the manager for...

[Matt Collins]

Probably more than three months

[Rudy65]

Deano can say he gave some players a chance to impress and they failed.

This was a feature of the Bruce period as well, on the occassions that young or fringe players had a chance they rarely took it and gave him selection problems.

There is a big shift in culture required at the club which will take time that i hope the club and fans give the management and board.

I completely concur.

That said, I can't help but wonder how long the owners are (cough) prepared to back the manager for...

If he makes the play offs or just finishes outside after a decent end of season run he will be fine. If not and with billionaires not known for their patience he could be out a la RDM. Not what I want but football is so short term these days

[XXVilla]

They’ll give him another season no doubt.

[The Edge]

They’ll give him another season no doubt.

Of course they will. It will take time. We shouldn't even be discussing this. We have got to get it right and patience and persistence will be required.The next person who boos the team near to me will get a round of fuchs.

[LeeB]

The game was rubbish highlight for me having a chat with Dave Woodhall at half time.

They say there's always someone worse off than yourself.

[darren woolley]

The game was rubbish highlight for me having a chat with Dave Woodhall at half time.

They say there's always someone worse off than yourself.

Too true Lee but I love chatting with my good friend Dave for me it's a pleasure to talk football with friends.

[LeeB]

The game was rubbish highlight for me having a chat with Dave Woodhall at half time.

They say there's always someone worse off than yourself.

Too true Lee but I love chatting with my good friend Dave for me it's a pleasure to talk football with friends.

No worries Daz, the one time I tried to chat to him ended with me buying 2 more copies of a fazine I already owned.
I reckon pro-rata it was more expensive than phonig Clubcall.