Aston Villa 0-3 Swansea City Post Match Thread

[The Edge]

And good to see the magic of the cup alive and well at Villa Park....a crowd of 37,000+ announced as 30,000.

There were no more than 30K in the ground as about 50% of ST holder exercised their privilege to stay away. There were empty seats all over the ground in normal ST holder areas. So the attendance announced was true attendance at the ground today and not based on "counting in" ST holders regardless of there or not.

Wrong. A guesstimate amongst us conservatively put it at plus 35,000

Hmmm.. that I am afraid does not make the Club a liar.

Liar or not I've been going down enough years to know a +35,000 crowd.

Same here. I'm known by my mates as a bit of a stato on stuff like that (probably a pisstake)  We always do our own guess the crowd during the ground and no-one went below 35k. My own guess was 37.500. No way was there only 30k in the ground today. Well at least this debate has took my mind off the abject performance on the pitch. And on a side note I've never heard less singing from our own fans. It was an abysmal effort by us which the Swansea fans rightly took the piss out of us. Poor poor effort on and off the pitch from the villa.

[villa `cross the mersey]

It was embarrassing as usual. For me this was the most important match of the season and once again it was treated with total disrespect by the team (players and management). I hate modern day football. Just fuck off to all of them.

likewise ....I was embarrassed with that dreadful performance ......I realise Smith needs time and hopefully he gets it but that was  awful - as bad as anything Bruce had us performing . I thought at least O`Harewas asking for the ball constAntly and wanted to show for it unlike Hogan who was statuesque all game . We need to forget all about promotion - Smith needs to build a new squad/ team which will take at least two years I feel

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Poor today! Completely frustrated by the form of my team in games like this.
Kalinic will need more game time before judging him. Bree did ok but can't cross a ball. The back 4 didn't line up as I expected them to when the team was announced. What is Terry doing in training with our defenders for them to consistently concede goals in games? Whelan and Hogan useless today and shouldn't start any more games for Villa. El Ghazi is an impact sub at best. O Hare shouldn't have been pulled when he was. Kodjia needs to revert to striker role if tammy goes. I didn't believe attendance figure either. Totally pissed off with yet another shambles of a performance.

[brian green]

Agree Aftab.  Agree VCTM.  I got a text from my son Damon, 42 years a Holte Ender, before the game.  It read "So we are not interested in the FA Cup again. OK."  That was yet a other defining game.  A chance for the shoots of new growth to become apparent but it was exactly the opposite.  The scorched earth of more-of-the-same.

[Lastfootstamper]

Poor today! Completely frustrated by the form of my team in games like this.
Kalinic will need more game time before judging him. Bree did ok but can't cross a ball. The back 4 didn't line up as I expected them to when the team was announced. What is Terry doing in training with our defenders for them to consistently concede goals in games? Whelan and Hogan useless today and shouldn't start any more games for Villa. El Ghazi is an impact sub at best. O Hare shouldn't have been pulled when he was. Kodjia needs to revert to striker role if tammy goes. I didn't believe attendance figure either. Totally pissed off with yet another shambles of a performance.

A few people have commented on this aspect across the forum, not just today. Why an assumption that our crap defenders should stop being crap just because Terry is on the staff? He's not employed as a defensive coach, he's an assistant coach who's three months in to learning on his first proper job.

Hutton, Bree, Taylor, Elmo, the sooner they all fuck off, the better.

[Fred Crump]

I am surprised with the criticism O'Hare is getting on here I thought he did okay. and his subbing was met with a chorus of angry boo's so I presumed in others eyes he did ok for a youngster.

Mcginn was the best player but O'Hare did keep trying stuff. Obviously he gave it away on occasions but he was up against Leroy Fer who shackled him most of the first half and was probably the best player on the pitch. However I did see little give and goes and nice flicks here and there.

suprised McGinn and Whelan both started considering they've played loads.

At least we can concentrate on the league now.

Totally agree, O’Hare is obviously not yet the finished article but his speed of thought, first touch and movement are the best I’ve seen from one of our youngsters since Grealish. He will thrive in a better side. Dean acknowledged the boos from the Holte in his interview and said it was tough on him that he took him off but it was a tactical switch. He also said that he was conscious of the damage that can be done to a young players confidence if they get stick from a crowd that turns because of a bad team performance. He was obviously thinking of the minority on here who are having a go at O’ Hare.

[Toronto Villa]

James Bree is shit as well. I've nothing from him since he's been here to suggest otherwise.

Absolutely weak as piss.

Our entire defence is back up players and back up to back up players. That’s the problem. You simply cannot compete like that.

[BoVillan esq]

BBC came up with the 1 in 7 stat, and the comment, 'what has happened to Aston Villa' its easy really, the clubs an enigma, absolute disgrace, in my opinion we needed this to possibly have a crack at a Premiership side and to get something happening at the club. 

[adrenachrome]

For all Lansbury’s good play when he came on which surprised me really, he showed what an idiot he can be with that reckless tackle he was very lucky to not get sent off for.
Hogan needs to go. He’ll never be a player for us.

Exactly. Very talented player, but a basket case. Always was, and shall be forevermore unless we appoint a sports psychologist.
I think we had one, but he was collateral damage in the night of the long knives. Oh well.

[Ads]

He made me chuckle. He went to deck a Swansea player too.

I like him. The booking he got wasn't a problem, taking one for the team.

He deserves to start at Wigan. He moves the ball decades quicker than Whelan. We need that to feed the wide men.

[LukeJames]

They were about to break away, I just wish somebody had taken one for the team like that when QPR broke for either of their gosls.

[rougegorge]

Swansea made just one change from their last match. Potter had started to come under pressure and probably recognised the importance of keeping some momentum going.

We made several changes, and none were for the better as it turned out; hopeless.

Losing our best player shouldn't be the reason for such a woeful downturn in form, but along with the players, the management team have not stepped up in recent weeks and we can't keep laying all the blame at the previous incumbent.

[QuintonVilla]

Lansbury could be a serial killer, he's still a better option than plodder Whelan.

Re: the crowd. Never in a million years there was only 30k there. Looked about 37k to me. Sounded like there were about 7k there, dreadful atmosphere. I know the football was crap but our home support is piss poor, we only sing against Blues or if we're winning 4-0.
Saw a lot on Twitter on about the atmosphere and how crap it is these days. It needs something drastic like making the lower Holte £250 season tickets and getting 8k in there who want to stand and sing every game. The Holte is a shadow of it's former self, dont think I heard a proper chant all game.

[LeeB]

They were about to break away, I just wish somebody had taken one for the team like that when QPR broke for either of their gosls.

Hear hear. I thought it showed a bit of 'game management' that we generally lack.

[Ads]

It was a booking all day long. No idea why those fannies reacted like they did.