Villa 5-5 Forest post-match thread

[TonyD]

Seriously, if people can't enjoy a game like that i'm staggered.

I’m a misery guts.  But that was fun.   Can’t complain. Just need to shore the defence and we’ll piss this league.   

[SoccerHQ]

Looking at the disallowed goal (on the video) near the end. If Tammy had not touched it it might still have crossed the line and counted.

Abraham also missed a chance to make it 4-3 just before half time.

Tammy will be one of those at the end of the season who'd have scored 25 goals and we'll be moaning he should've scored 40. He has that Darren Bent knack of being in the right place in the six yard box.

From just seeing the highlights on Quest I too though the initial shot might've been going in so frustrating he helped it in but he had scored 4 so guess we was just too keen.

[rougegorge]

Looking back at the goals, even the last one, it's a bit harsh on the keeper.

Not at all. I watched it from upper north. The 4th (i think) was straight at him with no deflection and he had a clear view. Made no attempt at a save. The 5th he got beat at the near post. They had 5 shots on target and he never saved any of them. There's no room for sentiment in football. Well if you want to be successful there isn't. He is absolutely useless. No reflection on Deano but wall know we need a massive overhaul at the back. Starting with a new keeper or two.

If you see the replay from behind the goal the 4th looks like a mistake by the keeper.

From where I was sitting in the Trinity Road, the 4th looked very bad and how Grabban scored the 5th then only Tuanzebe and Nyland know. The defence or keeper was culpable on all of their goals.

Nyland didn't make one save all night! He flings himself theatrically for shots that are going well wide yet can't move when the ball comes near him.

I'd have probably taken a draw after 6 minutes. Exhilarating going forward but scary at the back.

I was really surprised Smith didn't change it at half time as Hourihane can't play as a shield for the defence and they really need shielding. Get Elmo back at RB and Hutton at LB at least for now.

16 goals in two consecutive home games... strangely not the first time. I remember 16 in 95 (Wimbledon 7-1 followed by Leicester 4-4).

[Matt Collins]

I think Taylor is playing well. Don't agree he's the problem at all

The problems are the keeper, Chester, hourihane in holding midfield and just generally being so incredibly open at times

[The Edge]

Looking back at the goals, even the last one, it's a bit harsh on the keeper.

Not at all. I watched it from upper north. The 4th (i think) was straight at him with no deflection and he had a clear view. Made no attempt at a save. The 5th he got beat at the near post. They had 5 shots on target and he never saved any of them. There's no room for sentiment in football. Well if you want to be successful there isn't. He is absolutely useless. No reflection on Deano but wall know we need a massive overhaul at the back. Starting with a new keeper or two.

If you see the replay from behind the goal the 4th looks like a mistake by the keeper.

Definitely. I don't see how anyone can draw any other conclusion. A shot from 30 yards straight at your keeper should be dealt with. I haven't had the benefit of seeing the replay but as I said earlier I was in the upper north and in direct line with that shot. It looked a howler to me.

[john2710]

I didn't know whether to cheer or boo them at HT. Where do you start, with a game like that?

I'm in line with it & I was convinced that Grabban was offside for the first goal. Chester looks half the player, but there's no protection in front & even less behind him. He's not comfortable with the ball. Nyland at fault for the last goal.

But going forward we look great & should have won that game despite our intention to fuck it up.

With any luck we'll be in touch in January & Dean will bring in the players we need.

[brontebilly]

Looking back on Goals the fact we never got anyone close to Lolly all game was our downfall..,2nd goal Houriane is attracted to ball and lets the runner in behind to score.As bad as defence was ( and GK) Houriane or anyone in that position has to do better

blame game

1st - Hourihane dives into a tackle in midfield that ends up tripping Chester, but Tuanzebe is beyond belief poor dragged to the ball leaving Grabban in miles of space for a tap in
2nd - Hourihane fails to stay with the runner but again watch Tuanzebe, same error again dragged out of position with Grabban's decoy run, doesnt spot danger behind him until too late,
3rd - No pressure on pass in midfield, Hutton failed to spot runner too late but again Tuanzebe was too far out of position. Between Hutton and Tuanzebe they still should have been able to block that run and/or shot.
4th - Hourihane diabolical, didnt get tight on the shooter and seemed to turn away from the shot. Not sure on keeper either for that one but didnt see a replay from behind goal
5th - Grealish offers token resistance in midfield, good run from Grabban which Tuanzebe tracked well, he simply has to block the shot, Nyland cant be beaten at his near post regardless

[PeterWithesShin]

Post-match on WM

[dave shelley]

Just back and all I can say is, fucking hell!  That last goal, I was right in line with it and for a so-called international goalkeeper to be beaten like that is just unbelievable.  Was he watching the ball at all?  We are a very good Championship team and until that defence gets sorted that's what we will remain.  I'd have taken the draw after six minutes.  The wait goes on for me to see us win at home, not happened for me since we beat Bolton 5-1.

[PeterWithesShin]

Apparently this is the first ever 5-5 at VP.

[SoccerHQ]

I think hourihane was quite good on the ball

But defensively he really offered zero. And against a £13m no 10 that meant they just waltzed through us

Thought Whelan did well when he came on, passing was good. Can see him starting on Saturday (hopefully to tempt Pulis into a January bid!)

[Matt Collins]

Way too critical on tuanzebe

For the first three goals he was left hugely exposed by others. It's hard to defend well when you're that exposed, right throuhh the middle of the side

[PeterWithesShin]

Tammy post-match OS https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1067918912900206592

[Three Spires Villa]

Some very simple made tonight. We can’t keep starting games we have in the last two. If we are serious about the top 2 spots, then this needs sorting very quickly. Wonder what JT was thinking

[The_ads]

We will 100% finish in top 6 and beat West Brom in the play off final. Fact.