Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread

[Allan C]

Why are we not giving our young lads a chance on a regular basis -  rather than continually having to buy these over priced players from other clubs, who in 6 months time most on here will be saying "waste of money" and we can't give them away!

Surely we have must have lads in the reserve team who can step up into the 1st team.

That's the point. We clearly don't, either that or the players they ae expected to play with aren't good enough to support them.
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Your second point is pretty much spot on for me. We have a poor squad in my opinion with the exception of Grealish and Abraham who isn’t actually ours anyway.

[UK Redsox]

O'Hare looked OK I thought. Certainly the best of a poor bunch on Saturday.

However, his rare appearances so far haven't shown anything to suggest he's ready for a regular role. Maybe, in the post-Grealish era, he'll get more game time and prove to be a star.

[Fred Crump]

O'Hare gave the ball away and was physically bullied. He was poor. It's ludicrous to blame others for what's he's responsible for.

That’s the great ( and bad ) thing about football Ads. Two people can watch the same game and player and have completely different opinions. Even stats are open to interpretation. It’s great from a fans point of view because we can waste hours debating it on Forums like this but bad from a player’s point of view because even professional managers have different opinions to an extent as well. So I hope for O’Hares sake Deano sees what I see in him, not what you do !

[Holy Trinity]

The problem is with our fan base in general and I'm not saying on here I mean as a cross section. We massively jump the gun on saying a player is shit!
Perfect example was gueye... I reckon 80% of villa fans I know personally were calling him shit and not good enough whilst I was sat here saying he was one of the best centre miss in the prem. Fast forward a few years and he is on the brink of joining PSG.
Someone got bullied and made a few mistakes but for most of the game was quite slick. Now half our fans base are already writing him off whilst the others are proclaiming the second coming of Christ.

The fact is untill someone has 15-20 games under their belts and I mean 90 min games not here and there as a sub we will have no idea if they can cut it. But this should be the time we dabble with youth because if we go up we can't afford to chance it. I want a cdm in this window now and that will give us decent enough cover in every department to supplement it with kids.

Left back we have Taylor, Hutton, Hause and let's not forget Chester can also play there.
Center back Chester elphnick Hause Tunzebee bree
Right back hutton Elmo bree and Tunzebee

If nobody leaves we don't need anything but a cdm and we should be scouring Europe not buying at inflated prices of rival clubs because we missed the boat.

Let's go and buy wilmar barrios from Boca. He can play right back, center back and cdm and is a total monster

[sid1964]

It was the same with Veretout, who most were saying he is crap - how much is he worth now?

[chrisw1]

O'Hare gave the ball away and was physically bullied. He was poor. It's ludicrous to blame others for what's he's responsible for.

That’s the great ( and bad ) thing about football Ads. Two people can watch the same game and player and have completely different opinions. Even stats are open to interpretation. It’s great from a fans point of view because we can waste hours debating it on Forums like this but bad from a player’s point of view because even professional managers have different opinions to an extent as well. So I hope for O’Hares sake Deano sees what I see in him, not what you do !

I saw the same as ADS unfortunately.  He did start really brightly, always making himself available and had some really good touches - very Grealish-esq.  But he faded very badly, got bullied and became largely anonymous.  I have high hopes for him long term, but was disappointed on Saturday.

[pauliewalnuts]

It was the same with Veretout, who most were saying he is crap - how much is he worth now?

It wasn't the fanbase who sold him, though, was it?

The club has a long history of not looking after its assets (by which I mean players). Witness the bomb squad and all that bullshit.

[ASHTONVILLA]

It was the same with Veretout, who most were saying he is crap - how much is he worth now?

Yeah but he was crap for us, as were Gate, Amarvi and Ayew.

I am sure Palace and Liverpool fans think Benteke is crap, but he was excellent for Villa. You can only judge on what you see at the time, and none of that lot showed anything to suggest they were good players.

[paul_e]

O'Hare gave the ball away and was physically bullied. He was poor. It's ludicrous to blame others for what's he's responsible for.

Being bullied is something he needs to learn to deal with, it's the main reason why he should've been allowed to go on loan last year so he could have 4-5 months of game time in league 1 to get used to the physical side of it.

Giving the ball away is as much about the team as it is the player in many cases. Some players just aren't very good at passing the ball, Jedinak suffers from that, but the vast majority of players will be able to pass 10-15yards consistently on a training pitch but in a match it changes and if you're in a team with players you don't know well and none of them are offering any leadership things can fall apart quite quickly.

For me I'd rather see someone like O'Hare in the team making mistakes than see Whlen/Jedinak making them. For the former it's an opportunity to improve, for the latter it's too late for that.

[Hoppo]

Rico Henry having a medical..

[Mister E]

Rico Henry having a medical..

A Bluenose ...
... not that that should mean anything

[chrisw1]

Rico Henry having a medical..

excellent, hope this is true.

[Risso]

It was the same with Veretout, who most were saying he is crap - how much is he worth now?

It wasn't the fanbase who sold him, though, was it?

The club has a long history of not looking after its assets (by which I mean players). Witness the bomb squad and all that bullshit.

In any case, there have been far bigger players at arguably bigger clubs who haven't cut it in the Premier League.  Veron, Falcao and di Maria at Man U, and Shevchenko at Chelsea, being obvious examples.  Then some players seem to do well at one club, and then not at others.  Benteke with us, and Torres at Liverpool for example.  There's no science to it, and just because a player has gone on to do well after leaving us, it doesn't mean that he'd have been a success if only the nasty fans had had a bit more patience.

[brian green]

I don't  know who Gate is but it is not true that Veretout, Amavi and Ayew showed no signs of quality for us.  The talent in all three was there to see as it was in Traore and Gueye.  Problem was not with the players it was the chaotic shambles the club had become.

[Risso]

I don't  know who Gate is but it is not true that Veretout, Amavi and Ayew showed no signs of quality for us.  The talent in all three was there to see as it was in Traore and Gueye.  Problem was not with the players it was the chaotic shambles the club had become.

I'm assuming it's Idrissa Gana Gueye.