Deano’s wishlist - the Jan transfer speculation/guaranteed nonsense thread

[mr underhill]

shit happens - a lot at Villa Park. Let's hope those days are gone.

[manic-road]

We may get Ming In

[footyskillz]

We may get Ming In

Haha!
Hoping he more of a sweet Ming
The Bournemouth fans have only got good mings to say about tyronne

[sickbeggar]

He was a good prospect. Again he's had a mega injury - 15 months out is a bad 'un and he's hardly played since. If we're going to be spending 5m plus on him, they better not still be using the same medical team that passed Richards as fit.

[DrGonzo]

There's been a lot of managers pass under the bridge since Richards signed!  In a sense a softly softly approach to building our squad might be sensible in the long run.  Short term thinking has put us in this position.  For years we have scrambled to either stay in the prem or, more recently, to try and get back there.  As a consequence we have an ageing, bloated squad bolstered by short term loans.  With a young and promising manager (I know some of you are already getting hacked but =P to you!!) a period of soldifying may be the long term answer.  The best we could hope for this season is to scrape into the play offs, and promotion might not be the final escape from the Championship.
  That said we do need to shore up our defence, and the lack of midfield protection/deep playmaking is clear for all to see.  I would like to see 2 solid signings that will give us a spring board for next season. 

[footyskillz]

The main memory I have of mings is his roughing up of Zlatan and trying to put him off his game at old Trafford .
He succeeded and ibrahimovic even missed his pen.

It was flair against brute force and was somewhat surprised Howe had mings getting overly physical with Ibra.

The big I am that is Zlatan didn't like it and was constantly engaged in a battle

Clever but not how I like my football

I was actually shouting for mings to get sent off as in my view his act of violence he  stamped on Ibrahimovic.

For footyskillz lovers like me I didn't appreciate that Ibra actually seemed scared in the end as mings stood up to him but in a dirty way.

Of course Zlatan has his own dirty history but that day mings clearly initiated the battle by winding him up and disgraceful stood on his head

Is that what Dean Smith wants ?
I know some enjoy seeing these types of players and maybe there is some small need in rough and tumble of EFL.

But generally I can't stand players who aren't looking to play the match in a fair way and usually it's to compensate for limited ability.

[footyskillz]

The footage is on YouTube .

Not for that faint hearted.

Mings v Ibrahimovic fight.

[PeterWithe]

I always thought Gueye, Ayew and Amarvi were very well scouted signings and would have done just as well here in a more stable environment. Gueye I thought should have moved to Leicester to replace Kante. Not at all surprised that they did well elsewhere.

Veretout I wasn’t impressed by, too slow and physically weak for English football.

[chrisw1]

The main memory I have of mings is his roughing up of Zlatan and trying to put him off his game at old Trafford .
He succeeded and ibrahimovic even missed his pen.

It was flair against brute force and was somewhat surprised Howe had mings getting overly physical with Ibra.

The big I am that is Zlatan didn't like it and was constantly engaged in a battle

Clever but not how I like my football

I was actually shouting for mings to get sent off as in my view his act of violence he  stamped on Ibrahimovic.

For footyskillz lovers like me I didn't appreciate that Ibra actually seemed scared in the end as mings stood up to him but in a dirty way.

Of course Zlatan has his own dirty history but that day mings clearly initiated the battle by winding him up and disgraceful stood on his head

Is that what Dean Smith wants ?
I know some enjoy seeing these types of players and maybe there is some small need in rough and tumble of EFL.

But generally I can't stand players who aren't looking to play the match in a fair way and usually it's to compensate for limited ability.

Frankly it's exactly what I want.  Many top strikers are bullies - Ibra is a perfect example.  If a defender is tough enough and smart enough to stand up to them without getting too many fouls or cards against them, then I'm all for it.

[SoccerHQ]

We could match that record of astute dealing in any single player sold on for his true value eg Gueye, Amavi, Veretout, Traore.  I am not talking football, I am talking money.  The paramount need at Villa Park is not to piss money away in pursuit of the "he's shit get rid" business model.  He may well be shit (though I think the four I mention above are better than most of our current squad) but football is a business and you DO NOT talk down your assets.  Not unless you want to go broke.

Very true and rumours that Gueye off to PSG for £40million

Wonder if we have sell on clause for Gana or did Xia sell it off during the mad summer.

[SoccerHQ]

I always thought Gueye, Ayew and Amarvi were very well scouted signings and would have done just as well here in a more stable environment. Gueye I thought should have moved to Leicester to replace Kante. Not at all surprised that they did well elsewhere.

Veretout I wasn’t impressed by, too slow and physically weak for English football.

I agree with that. They came in at a time when we'd just lost three key players- Vlaar, Delph and Benteke and everyone saw the void those three left. Not just on the pitch but their experience and leadership in the dressing room (first two).

Add Gana alongside Delph and Cleverley in our 14/15 midfield and that would've worked nicely. I think Ayew playing in number 10 role just off Benteke and linking in midfield would've been right position for him (Grealish staying wider). And Kieron Richardson starting the cup final at left back shows we were as weak then as we are now in that position, an eternal problem for us.

We spent 2014 holidays signing Joe Cole, Senderos, Carlos Sanchez and Richardson of course.

[dave.woodhall]

It shows the short-termist, scattergun approach we've had so often. Start off with one idea then when it doesn't work immediately change to another. First we had Lambert's derided young & hungry approach, which nevertheless brought in Benteke plus Westwood, Lowton & Bennett, all now Premier League regulars. Then we had the Sherwood debacle, when the Sporting Director decided to bring in players despite rather than because of the manager. Veretout, Gueye, Amavi, Traore - all decent players but useless in the circumstances. And last season's loan signings were half-right, with Snodgrass, Johnstone and Grabban all potential buys last May.

If we'd employed joined-up thinking we could have a team of Johnstone, Lowton, Amavi, Ciaran Carke, Chester, Gueye, Veretout, Grealish, Traore, Snodgrass & Benteke, with Bennett, Westwood & Grabban either on the bench or sold to finance new signings and that's without buying anyone else.   

[Fasth56]

Moreira is returning to Atletico Madrid. Another one off the payroll

[SoccerHQ]

Moreira is returning to Atletico Madrid. Another one off the payroll

Weird signing. Can't say he gave much confidence in the two cup games he had.

[footyskillz]

The Gks position is a specialist one and is deemed acceptable in football terms to be a non playing player and pick up a wage .

It's essentially for some a reserve or back up role and a given .

I know several Gks and a few more who don't get the fame time time but accept the situation.
Similarly and how it is these same players have said that there are occasionally an outfielder who will be less inclined to move even if not playing due to the wonderful contract and wage.
There are notable deductions for apparenaces , bonus and not playing as well as even being in squads . I can only imagine championship and premier money is even more extreme.

I talking lower levels but with relative comfort depending on. Size and ambition of club.

Anyhow GKs go on loan and cover and go for experiences and of course to be paid.
You can earn a good living as a back up GK and it's really only a certain amount that will go on to promote their careers when their is either a clear path , opportunity or a recognised talent.

It's now not so uncommon to stock pile gks as some coaches or goal keeping coaches request this in order purely to have effective coaching for a gk and also help boost such things  as the mindset of the number 1 being the best at the club.
A given acknowledgement other GK are there basically in a support role

You don't get this attitude and way with any other positions unless a back up to world class players .
You do get favourite or the best players having priority which leads to drop off in performance.

Nyland has had his opportunity and will be either a keen reserve once back or moved on to other things.
Sometimes some GKs aren't cut out to be number 1 and certain levels of football.