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Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8295 on: June 28, 2020, 10:17:09 PM »
Anything credible in the press?

A couple of papers which I don't wish to link to (Heil and Star) ran with the story, but they're only basing their information on the same Twitter ITK that people were discussing on here. So, no. That said, I don't really see any reason why the press would know before anyone else, unless he is already in the process of negotiating a leaving settlement.

Fair enough. Thanks mate.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8296 on: June 28, 2020, 10:23:36 PM »
Despite the obvious fact that we are crap, we’re not actually down yet and the teams around us, including Pearson’s Watford, that is Pearson who lots were raving about when he took over their, are just as crap. Watford may have had a spectacular win over Liverpool but its the only win they’ve had in 10, that’s how long their new manager bounce has lasted. If after Liverpool and Man Utd, we are 3 or 4 points behind Bournemouth, West Ham and Watford then I think we are gone, if it’s 1 or 2 points and we have palace, Everton, arsenal and West Ham to play, then it’s all to play for.

And Dyche, I like Sean Dyche and his growl, but the irony that he got relegated with Burnley and they stuck with him, seems to have by passed a lot of Smith outers on here.We’re they heralded for then barnstorming football the year they last went down?
I’m almost past caring whether smith stays or goes, I’ve not enjoyed a game since Watford in January and that nearly gave me a heart attack. What I do know is, a lot of supporters would of realistically took 17th as an achievement this season after the way we came up and the rushed squad rebuild. Coming 17th invariably means you lose a lot of games, but this seems to have by passed a lot of people. However shite we are, and we are really hard to watch at the moment, coming 17th is not exactly the impossible given we’re on the same points as Bournemouth and West Ham and one behind Watford.
If the internet had existed in April and May 1989, it would of been interesting to see if SGT would of been getting this vitriol, as his Villa escaped an immediate return to Div 1 as it was,  by 1 point with a 1-1 draw with Cov on last day of the season. Just saying like.

The thing is SGT had got Watford through all the divisions in 5 years to runners up in the first division and an FA cup final, so he had an excellent track record. He got us up, then kept us up, then got us runners up in the first division and then became manager of England.

Please remind me what Dean Smith has actually ever done as a manager.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8297 on: June 28, 2020, 10:24:45 PM »
Dyche or Hughton would be the obvious candidates.
Personally I would find that massively underwhelming.

Me too.

Tired of same old same old.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8298 on: June 28, 2020, 10:28:32 PM »
Dyche has done a sight more than Hughton.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8299 on: June 28, 2020, 10:35:32 PM »
Was on a Bristol City forum earlier and a few of them are keen to go for Smith if/when we sack him.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8300 on: June 28, 2020, 10:39:11 PM »
Despite the obvious fact that we are crap, we’re not actually down yet and the teams around us, including Pearson’s Watford, that is Pearson who lots were raving about when he took over their, are just as crap. Watford may have had a spectacular win over Liverpool but its the only win they’ve had in 10, that’s how long their new manager bounce has lasted. If after Liverpool and Man Utd, we are 3 or 4 points behind Bournemouth, West Ham and Watford then I think we are gone, if it’s 1 or 2 points and we have palace, Everton, arsenal and West Ham to play, then it’s all to play for.

And Dyche, I like Sean Dyche and his growl, but the irony that he got relegated with Burnley and they stuck with him, seems to have by passed a lot of Smith outers on here.We’re they heralded for then barnstorming football the year they last went down?
I’m almost past caring whether smith stays or goes, I’ve not enjoyed a game since Watford in January and that nearly gave me a heart attack. What I do know is, a lot of supporters would of realistically took 17th as an achievement this season after the way we came up and the rushed squad rebuild. Coming 17th invariably means you lose a lot of games, but this seems to have by passed a lot of people. However shite we are, and we are really hard to watch at the moment, coming 17th is not exactly the impossible given we’re on the same points as Bournemouth and West Ham and one behind Watford.
If the internet had existed in April and May 1989, it would of been interesting to see if SGT would of been getting this vitriol, as his Villa escaped an immediate return to Div 1 as it was,  by 1 point with a 1-1 draw with Cov on last day of the season. Just saying like.

The thing is SGT had got Watford through all the divisions in 5 years to runners up in the first division and an FA cup final, so he had an excellent track record. He got us up, then kept us up, then got us runners up in the first division and then became manager of England.

Please remind me what Dean Smith has actually ever done as a manager.

Missing my point really. I wasn’t comparing SGT and Smiths records, that would be stupid, not least as we have the whole of Taylor’s career to look back on. Only One of the points I was making in that post, was that if the internet had existed even someone of Taylor’s calibre as you’ve outlined, would of probably been getting stick on a forum like this. In fact in ‘real’ life come a bad start to the 89-90 season there was noise from some supporters about Taylor, I remember it and deadly was getting his trigger finger ready.

It seems to me that for a lot of this season a lot of posters have wanted smith out because of how the seasons going, not his managerial background. One of my other points was, we’re far from relegate...yet, given the points of those around us at the moment.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8301 on: June 28, 2020, 10:39:27 PM »
Percy reckons we are sticking with him until the end of the season

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8302 on: June 28, 2020, 10:39:40 PM »
Percy just reporting that he’s more than likely staying in charge for the remaining games...

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8303 on: June 28, 2020, 10:39:56 PM »
It doesn’t matter what we do it always seems to go down the toilet sooner or later.

In 2006 we bought in the best manager outside the top 4 of the time.  We lavished him with £200m odd and he got us to the heady heights of 6th place and a cup final.  At the time it was considered that he had underachieved and he landed us with Habib Beye and Marlon Harewood.  He flounces off because he couldn’t buy Aidan MnGeady.

Houllier a foreign coach that most now appear to be crying out for comes in.  Has a dodgy start but after telling the likes of Collins and Dunne he wanted them to stop getting pissed and eating pies we started to look better after peeing another £30m odd on Makoun and Bent.  Then being the Villa he goes and has a coronary under the strain and we are back to square one.

We lurch from there to McLeish.  We then cry out for the new MON Lambert under a wave of excitement only for that to turn into a massive disappointment although in hindsight keeping us up turned out to be a great achievement. 

In walks a brash cockney who well acts like a brash cockney and kept us up and then probably wouldn’t have done.  To be replaced by a former player and pundit on Canal plus.  Total disaster. A takeover lee money and a champions league winner.  Surely this will work.  No eleven games in.  Gone.  Let’s bring in a promotion expert.  Give him more money than the whole of the EFL combined.  Failure.  Let’s bring in a forward thinking coach a technical thinking one and a Villa man through and through.  Success we are up.  One year later disaster looms. 

We are doomed i tells ya. 
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 10:54:20 AM by kippaxvilla2 »

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8304 on: June 28, 2020, 10:40:04 PM »
Deans not going anywhere (at least not this season)

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8305 on: June 28, 2020, 10:44:13 PM »
I don’t really get that. Sadly it is what it is. We seem to have accepted the unacceptable.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8306 on: June 28, 2020, 10:46:47 PM »
I’m assuming the excuse this week will be Liverpool were more match ready having played a game a couple of days before.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8307 on: June 28, 2020, 11:08:42 PM »
A Baldrick given half a season, no money and a snake pit dressing room.

Agreed. He had his hands tied from the start and was in a no-win situation in many ways.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8308 on: June 28, 2020, 11:10:38 PM »
Well if Smith is here unit the end I hope he can inject a little life into us. Anything like that cup game against Leicester will do nicely. I'd stick with two up front and bring Elmo in for Konsa and SJM for Nakamba.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #8309 on: June 29, 2020, 12:19:39 AM »
Nyland
Konsa    Mings.    Hause
Nakamba and Luiz sit in front of the back 3
Jack sitting in the middle in front of N/L
Davis with Samatta sitting off him up front

And the surprise
Ramsey and Vassilev floating in front of Jack - they simply cannot be worse than any of the shite we have seen there recently and, sometimes a wild card works.





 


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