Dean Smith - Confirmed

[paul_e]

You refuse to give Bruce for stabilising us, which hs did.  Paul just stop now as quite frankly you're making yourself look stupid. If he didn't stabilise us why aren't we playing in league 1.  I think it's best this is the last time we mention this as you're looking a bit foolish

Being lectured on looking foolish by a guy who said Benteke was shit because he missed a few chances has made my day. I guess you are at expert at least.  I've given plenty of reasons why I think you're wrong, if all you can answer is "well he did" then you're right, I should just stop because you're not worth the time.

Bringing Benteke up how predictable... Remind me how has has he done since he left us??? 
Benteke failed at Liverpool and now barely starts for Crystal Palace. Basically so far Bentekes form at Villa was the exception.

One thing I can't get my head round is a Villa fan wanting an Villa manager to fail

And you're still not countering any of my points and now seem to be suggesting that you were right that Benteke was shit so long as we ignore how he played at Villa, As I said, you're an expert on looking foolish.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

But with all of this said, suggesting he didn't want to be a good manager is just daft.  Whether his methods or abilities are up to scratch can be debated, but the inference that he didn't want to be successful is just ridiculous.

I inferred that he thought he already was successful, rather than didn't want to be.

He constantly waved his promotion record about as proof that he knew what he was doing, even when more progressive clubs and managers were demonstrably showing his approach to be outdated.

Had he shown more humility and less arrogance when his shortcomings were scrutinised he might not have failed last season, but fail he did, all because of hysteria and the silly season. Not because of anything he did or didn't do. He wasn't motivated to better himself because he apparently felt he had nothing left to learn, so what was he motivated by? What did he see as success? To all of us it was promotion. There, not thereabouts. I doubt he'll ever concede he was at fault for us coming up short.

[stuart445]

You refuse to give Bruce for stabilising us, which hs did.  Paul just stop now as quite frankly you're making yourself look stupid. If he didn't stabilise us why aren't we playing in league 1.  I think it's best this is the last time we mention this as you're looking a bit foolish

Being lectured on looking foolish by a guy who said Benteke was shit because he missed a few chances has made my day. I guess you are at expert at least.  I've given plenty of reasons why I think you're wrong, if all you can answer is "well he did" then you're right, I should just stop because you're not worth the time.

Bringing Benteke up how predictable... Remind me how has has he done since he left us??? 
Benteke failed at Liverpool and now barely starts for Crystal Palace. Basically so far Bentekes form at Villa was the exception.

One thing I can't get my head round is a Villa fan wanting an Villa manager to fail

And you're still not countering any of my points and now seem to be suggesting that you were right that Benteke was shit so long as we ignore how he played at Villa, As I said, you're an expert on looking foolish.

Considering his time here was a small fraction of his career (and he had spells here when he couldn't get anything right) so if you take everything into account his form at villa was a blip.

Basically Benteke is no difference to Scott Hogan. Managed to do well with 1 club for a short spell but has been poor everywhere else.

My guess here is you've realised you sounds foolish which is why you shifted the topic to Benteke.

[Clampy]

The thing is Stuart is that you were on Benteke's back from game one and you didn't really give him a chance to get to grips with the league. He turned out to be some of the best £7m we've ever spent and we made a massive profit on him. Whats happened since is a pity but he was fucking immense for us.

[Des Little]

Benteke is no different to Scott Hogan?  Mate I'd lay off those magic mushrooms if I were you.  Bloody hell.

[stuart445]

Benteke is no different to Scott Hogan?  Mate I'd lay off those magic mushrooms if I were you.  Bloody hell.

Both have been awesome for 1 club and have been poor ever since so please, so where is the difference then?

[Des Little]

Where to start.  How about goals scored, affect on the team, or re sale value?  Take your pick.

Edit - If you are talking about Hogan pre Villa then we are at cross purposes and I apologise!

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Stuart, just out of interest, would you say it is 'night' or 'day' where you are right now?

[stuart445]

The thing is Stuart is that you were on Benteke's back from game one and you didn't really give him a chance to get to grips with the league. He turned out to be some of the best £7m we've ever spent and we made a massive profit on him. Whats happened since is a pity but he was fucking immense for us.

I had concerns about Benteke at the start and what has happened since he left us shows that my concerns weren't that wide of the mark. As Scott Hogan has proved any player can have a spell where they score loads but when it comes to sustaining that form it don't happen.

[Clampy]

The thing is Stuart is that you were on Benteke's back from game one and you didn't really give him a chance to get to grips with the league. He turned out to be some of the best £7m we've ever spent and we made a massive profit on him. Whats happened since is a pity but he was fucking immense for us.

I had concerns about Benteke at the start and what has happened since he left us shows that my concerns weren't that wide of the mark. As Scott Hogan has proved any player can have a spell where they score loads but when it comes to sustaining that form it don't happen.

Your concerns made us £25m profit.

[stuart445]

The thing is Stuart is that you were on Benteke's back from game one and you didn't really give him a chance to get to grips with the league. He turned out to be some of the best £7m we've ever spent and we made a massive profit on him. Whats happened since is a pity but he was fucking immense for us.

I had concerns about Benteke at the start and what has happened since he left us shows that my concerns weren't that wide of the mark. As Scott Hogan has proved any player can have a spell where they score loads but when it comes to sustaining that form it don't happen.

Your concerns made us £25m profit.

Transfer price doesn't really mean much in football when you consider that Crystal Palace paid Liverpool £30 million for Benteke despite him being a complete failure there.

[pauliewalnuts]

Benteke is no different to Scott Hogan?  Mate I'd lay off those magic mushrooms if I were you.  Bloody hell.

Both have been awesome for 1 club and have been poor ever since so please, so where is the difference then?

Benteke was awesome for OUR club - that's the difference.

[Villa in Denmark]

The thing is Stuart is that you were on Benteke's back from game one and you didn't really give him a chance to get to grips with the league. He turned out to be some of the best £7m we've ever spent and we made a massive profit on him. Whats happened since is a pity but he was fucking immense for us.

I had concerns about Benteke at the start and what has happened since he left us shows that my concerns weren't that wide of the mark. As Scott Hogan has proved any player can have a spell where they score loads but when it comes to sustaining that form it don't happen.

Scott Hogan had roughly 6 months at Brentford where he looked decent.

Benteke was masssive for us for 3 seasons.  There's a huge difference.

[old man villa fan]

The difference between Benteke and Hogan was that Benteke was terrifying PL defences, whereas Hogan was scoring goals at Championship level.  Spurs thought Benteke was worth £20m, Liverpool and Crystal Palace paid more.  So a fan on H&V knows more than 3 PL managers.  I have an extendable aluminium ladder if said fan wants to borrow it, as the hole looks to be getting deeper.

[villa `cross the mersey]

The thing is Stuart is that you were on Benteke's back from game one and you didn't really give him a chance to get to grips with the league. He turned out to be some of the best £7m we've ever spent and we made a massive profit on him. Whats happened since is a pity but he was fucking immense for us.

I had concerns about Benteke at the start and what has happened since he left us shows that my concerns weren't that wide of the mark. As Scott Hogan has proved any player can have a spell where they score loads but when it comes to sustaining that form it don't happen.

Your concerns made us £25m profit.

plus it was fun taking the money off the Red Scouse