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Offline sickbeggar

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2018, 10:29:37 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2018, 10:35:30 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems
He applied for the job in the past didn’t he ?and also managed Forest for a spell.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2018, 10:40:24 AM by VillaAlways »

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2018, 10:43:15 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems
He applied for the job in the past didn’t he?


i think that ship has passed a long time ago given his age. He does his job whatever that is, and obviously it wasn't just Bruce that rated him doing it seeing he's been here since Houllier. If people think he's shit at that, then that's fair comment, but he was asked to fill a vacuum for 1 game and take over a team in real trouble. I wasn't expecting him to perform a miracle personally

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2018, 10:49:07 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems
He applied for the job in the past didn’t he ?and also managed Forest for a spell.

Don't believe he ever wanted the job here. 2010, we just took forever to get Houllier in place.

I believe it whetted his appetite, which was why he went to Swindon. He wasn't cut out for it, he came back.

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2018, 10:51:05 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems
He applied for the job in the past didn’t he?


i think that ship has passed a long time ago given his age. He does his job whatever that is, and obviously it wasn't just Bruce that rated him doing it seeing he's been here since Houllier. If people think he's shit at that, then that's fair comment, but he was asked to fill a vacuum for 1 game and take over a team in real trouble. I wasn't expecting him to perform a miracle personally
Exactly! We all knew what would be served up on Saturday with him on charge. So why not give the gig to Delaney,absolutely no thought as usual and 3 points squandered
« Last Edit: October 07, 2018, 11:01:34 AM by VillaAlways »

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2018, 11:05:25 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems
He applied for the job in the past didn’t he?


i think that ship has passed a long time ago given his age. He does his job whatever that is, and obviously it wasn't just Bruce that rated him doing it seeing he's been here since Houllier. If people think he's shit at that, then that's fair comment, but he was asked to fill a vacuum for 1 game and take over a team in real trouble. I wasn't expecting him to perform a miracle personally

Longer than Houllier, he's been with us since '95.

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2018, 11:10:33 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems
He applied for the job in the past didn’t he?


i think that ship has passed a long time ago given his age. He does his job whatever that is, and obviously it wasn't just Bruce that rated him doing it seeing he's been here since Houllier. If people think he's shit at that, then that's fair comment, but he was asked to fill a vacuum for 1 game and take over a team in real trouble. I wasn't expecting him to perform a miracle personally

Longer than Houllier, he's been with us since '95.

yeah realised afterwards. He's just a long-term employee picking up the pieces in the absence of anyone above him, no more no less, so i don't get the venom aimed in his direction really.  Only real person to blame for yesterday is Bruce

Offline Rudy65

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2018, 11:11:37 AM »
I doubt any of our first team lovies will have shown any respect to KM. He isn’t the one to read the riot act and the players know he will be back in the u23’S within a fortnight

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2018, 11:18:07 AM »
Get the feeling he's got a job for life here unless a proper review of the club from the new board comes back with must do better for the Youth team.

Did actually forget he was a manage for a short while, Swindon in 2013 but only lasted a couple of months after they lost in the play offs.

Must do better? Doesn't he run the academy pipeline that culminated in an 8-0 win last night?

If anything should be addressed, it's why there's such little transition from academy to first team. I look forward to a time when we're not constantly firefighting and can give a few a bit more game time.

Youth isn't just all about results, board will probably be asking why likes of O'Hare are on the fringe and not loaned out.

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2018, 11:21:13 AM »
He (in my opinion) virtually sabotaged a game against spurs to spite his employers.  The employers who have paid handsome wages to him for many years.  Add to that he is as dull as dishwater he should go in any new structure.

Why would he spite Lerner who gave him a job back here after they sacked Sherwood? I just think he (wrongly) concluded our awful start to the season was down to the French/African players upsetting the homeboys as we saw by him dropping Amavi and Gana completely from the 18 which was ridiculous as those were two of our better performers at the time.


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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2018, 11:24:32 AM »
Think people are being a bit harsh really. He was asked to do the job but he's not a manager and doesn't pretend or want to be one. He tried to shuffle the pack in defence but its hard enough trying to get a half decent defence with chester available let alone without him - i certainly couldn't have come up with one.  The new guy is going to have exactly the same problems
He applied for the job in the past didn’t he ?and also managed Forest for a spell.

He was umming and rrring about the job in 2010. I think at the time the board would've probably given it to him considering how good we were v West Ham in that first game but he was reluctant even in interviews afterwards and then the disaster afterwards at Newcastle ended that thought.

8 years ago now and the thought of him taking it full time now would be laughable.

If anything I wish we'd had someone ready to take over from SB on Wednesday evening. In our position we can ill afford to just write off games.

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2018, 01:56:53 PM »
By picking the side he did yesterday, it highlights the negativity and defence mindedness that seems to run through the club at senior level.  Mark Delaney seems to be bucking the trend with the u-23's, long may that continue.  I think Sherwood would have at least tried to win the game.  We sooo need to change our thought processes and become winners. 

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2018, 01:58:13 PM »
He had nothing to lose yesterday and starting with the press conference you could just tell he couldn't be arsed. The comment about his mates getting fired boiled my piss too. I hope he is gone very soon.

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2018, 02:26:23 PM »
He had nothing to lose yesterday and starting with the press conference you could just tell he couldn't be arsed. The comment about his mates getting fired boiled my piss too. I hope he is gone very soon.

That is exactly the reason why he should get the sack!
If you can't be arsed, don't do the job in the first place, get someone who gives a toss and is passionate enough to actually want to do the job even if it is only for one match!

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Re: MacDonald Out.
« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2018, 02:31:33 PM »
Mac's presser was a carbon copy of his game against Spurs (The infamous Gabby 8 touch game).  He stuck two fingers up at the club who pay his wages to score points for his mates.

 


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