MacDonald Out.

[kippaxvilla2]

One game in latest spell, one defeat.  MacDonald out.

[XXVilla]

See I see what you did there...

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I've seen from him;

West Ham home - excellent
Vienna away - Decent
Newcastle away - fucking shite
Everton at home - nervous
Vienna at home - mince
Southampton away - Zzzzz and crazy selection 
Tottenham away - What the actual fuck was that selection
Millwall - fucking shite

In fairness it's not his fault. Imagine being asked at work to do a job way beyond your capabilities, that you've neither asked to do nor want to do.

[Mister E]

I've seen from him;

West Ham home - excellent
Vienna away - Decent
Newcastle away - fucking shite
Everton at home - nervous
Vienna at home - mince
Southampton away - Zzzzz and crazy selection 
Tottenham away - What the actual fuck was that selection
Millwall - fucking shite

In fairness it's not his fault. Imagine being asked at work to do a job way beyond your capabilities, that you've neither asked to do nor want to do.

And, knowing you're going to get dumped as soon as the owners can find a 'proper' manager.

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Yeah it's a hiding to nothing. Don't get me wrong I got grumpy with him 2nd half and turned the South London air blue.

[XXVilla]

I've seen from him;

West Ham home - excellent
Vienna away - Decent
Newcastle away - fucking shite
Everton at home - nervous
Vienna at home - mince
Southampton away - Zzzzz and crazy selection 
Tottenham away - What the actual fuck was that selection
Millwall - fucking shite

In fairness it's not his fault. Imagine being asked at work to do a job way beyond your capabilities, that you've neither asked to do nor want to do.

And, knowing you're going to get dumped as soon as the owners can find a 'proper' manager.

He’s just filling a gap. I bet he can’t wait to get back to the U23s

[ozzjim]

He's very uninspiring though. Something about him I don't really like.

[XXVilla]

He's very uninspiring though. Something about him I don't really like.

Don’t worry I don’t think he’ll ever ask you out on a date

[SoccerHQ]

I've seen from him;

West Ham home - excellent
Vienna away - Decent
Newcastle away - fucking shite
Everton at home - nervous
Vienna at home - mince
Southampton away - Zzzzz and crazy selection 
Tottenham away - What the actual fuck was that selection
Millwall - fucking shite

In fairness it's not his fault. Imagine being asked at work to do a job way beyond your capabilities, that you've neither asked to do nor want to do.

I saw Stoke and Bolton under him aswell in 10/11, that Stoke game we should've been 5-0 up at half time but predictably lost it in the last minute.

I think the whole vibe was just to get this game over with and with that mentality I expected a defeat as he knows he has no chance of getting the job full time unlike his 2010 spell where he could well have got it if Newcastle 6-0 didn't happen.

Next time we change manager I'd like to see Delaney step in for a few games.

[SoccerHQ]

He's very uninspiring though. Something about him I don't really like.

Done good work with our youth down the years. Many praised him in later interviews. The recent bullying allegations were uncomfortable though.

[ozzjim]

He's very uninspiring though. Something about him I don't really like.

Don’t worry I don’t think he’ll ever ask you out on a date

Good job really, dull blokes with a wiff of bullying are not really my type.

Agree he seems to have done very good work down the years with the youth Soccer, but he is part of a setup that still does not bring enough through from very promising to first team IMO, especially when you look at how many are playing well for other teams. There seems to be a step missing in our youth programme that prevents some from fulfilling their potential here.

[SoccerHQ]

He's very uninspiring though. Something about him I don't really like.

Don’t worry I don’t think he’ll ever ask you out on a date

Good job really, dull blokes with a wiff of bullying are not really my type.

Agree he seems to have done very good work down the years with the youth Soccer, but he is part of a setup that still does not bring enough through from very promising to first team IMO, especially when you look at how many are playing well for other teams. There seems to be a step missing in our youth programme that prevents some from fulfilling their potential here.

Many but his job really is to funnel them from youth to first team as he's done with Fonz, Weimann, Bannan. Gabby, Cahill, Davis Albrighton in recent times.

First team manager at the times far more culpable for either overplaying them or not giving them the right conditions to excel.

Same thing for example happened with the bizzare way O'Hare has been handled in last year. Why has he not gone out on loan? Imagine for example Mac pushing for a loan spell and SB saying we need to keep him around in case we get 5 injuries in midfield or something. Who's to blame in that situation as 12 month later we're no closer to finding out if O'Hare is going to be a good player for us or not.

[XXVilla]

He's very uninspiring though. Something about him I don't really like.

Don’t worry I don’t think he’ll ever ask you out on a date

Good job really, dull blokes with a wiff of bullying are not really my type.

Agree he seems to have done very good work down the years with the youth Soccer, but he is part of a setup that still does not bring enough through from very promising to first team IMO, especially when you look at how many are playing well for other teams. There seems to be a step missing in our youth programme that prevents some from fulfilling their potential here.

The fact that players he’s brought through thrive away from Villa Park is not a damning endictement of him, it’s the failure of first team management over the years

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I've seen from him;

West Ham home - excellent
Vienna away - Decent
Newcastle away - fucking shite
Everton at home - nervous
Vienna at home - mince
Southampton away - Zzzzz and crazy selection 
Tottenham away - What the actual fuck was that selection
Millwall - fucking shite

In fairness it's not his fault. Imagine being asked at work to do a job way beyond your capabilities, that you've neither asked to do nor want to do.

I saw Stoke and Bolton under him aswell in 10/11, that Stoke game we should've been 5-0 up at half time but predictably lost it in the last minute.

I think the whole vibe was just to get this game over with and with that mentality I expected a defeat as he knows he has no chance of getting the job full time unlike his 2010 spell where he could well have got it if Newcastle 6-0 didn't happen.

Next time we change manager I'd like to see Delaney step in for a few games.

I'd forgot he Bolton game. Stoke was where Pulis turned up at half time. I can't recall if we had Houillier by then though.

[ozzjim]

I think it is both actually. I see the point you are both making, and agree to an extent, but if the players seem to flourish at an older age for some reason. I think it is a more complex thing than just the manager or just MacDonald, but I would argue both are responsible, and there needs to be more consideration of how so many have found it easier to fulfil their potential away from Villa.