Next manager?

[ktvillan]

There's a lot of flawed and outdated thinking on this thread.  Hiring a manager because of previous links to the club s so 20th century.  Just because we loved him as a player Mellberg has done nothing to warrant serious consideration.  Smith's credentials are better but some still seem to think the fact he's a Villa fan makes him a better candidate.  It doesn't.  Of all the successful managers in England, how many of them had any links with the clubs they manage or managed?  That kind of thinking is as dinosaur as "must have championship experience", "has got teams promoted before" and "who could we get who is better"?.     It doesn't have to be an "obvious choice" either. DoFs, directors, and CEOs worth their salt should have a plan in mind and a database of coaches at hand with an  idea of which of them might be a good fit for longer term success.  And as for "who would come here" we're Aston Villa, not fucking Wigan, we're still a big name in football and many would be honoured to manage us.  For me the only criteria are have they shown they can coach teams to play good and successful football consistently.    Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

[Lastfootstamper]

Have we ever appointed a manager that had been The Obvious Replacement?

Martin O'Neill.

Big Ron. Brian Little

Weren't they all still employed elsewhere at the time we binned the bloke they then replaced?

[villan from luton]

I would not want Allardyce, the football will be similer to what we are getting, though at least he would sort the defence out. I would have John Terry in charge, it is quite obvious the influence he had last season. To be fair I would have Simon Cowell in hare ahead of the very intelligent potato head at the moment.

[andyh]

There's a lot of flawed and outdated thinking on this thread.  Hiring a manager because of previous links to the club s so 20th century.  Just because we loved him as a player Mellberg has done nothing to warrant serious consideration.  Smith's credentials are better but some still seem to think the fact he's a Villa fan makes him a better candidate.  It doesn't.  Of all the successful managers in England, how many of them had any links with the clubs they manage or managed?  That kind of thinking is as dinosaur as "must have championship experience", "has got teams promoted before" and "who could we get who is better"?.     It doesn't have to be an "obvious choice" either. DoFs, directors, and CEOs worth their salt should have a plan in mind and a database of coaches at hand with an  idea of which of them might be a good fit for longer term success.  And as for "who would come here" we're Aston Villa, not fucking Wigan, we're still a big name in football and many would be honoured to manage us.  For me the only criteria are have they shown they can coach teams to play good and successful football consistently.    Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

Completely agree. Well said

[Matt Collins]

I like the principle of having fans on boards

But a quick scout of twitter or a fans forum - or even worse a radio forum - puts you right off!

[Rodders]

I hope it's allowable to post this link.

https://youtu.be/oo30X301Yvg

It's our controlling shareholder and Chairman Naseff Sawiris on Bloomberg discussing the Egyptian economy. The subject matter may be a little may be dull, unless you enjoy a spot of discussion of the Egyptian economy, but NS is clearly a credible, intelligent - let's face it... rich - and forward thinking businessman.

And it's worth reposting this short clip of Wes Edens recounting the recent sacking of the manager of the Milwaukee Bucks, a man who he described as a "friend."

https://youtu.be/zjBdxKpntnE

If those two haven't had the managerial shituation of their new investment well in hand for some time I'll eat one of my non-edible hats, and will further wager my last magic bean that this explains a *lot*

I would further humbly opine* that when man and hour cometh it won't be anyone shit. We might even be pleased.


* hope fervently

[SoccerHQ]

People seem to think he's done amazingly to keep little old Brentford afloat. Even though they made the playoffs under Warburton.

They should make the play offs every season then on 8k crowds and selling their best players every season?

Even without results he's a guy who can on the training pitch improve players and also over time create a team with an identity, two things the present incumbent hasn't achieved at all.

[AlexAlexCropley]

People seem to think he's done amazingly to keep little old Brentford afloat. Even though they made the playoffs under Warburton.

They should make the play offs every season then on 8k crowds and selling their best players every season?

Even without results he's a guy who can on the training pitch improve players and also over time create a team with an identity, two things the present incumbent hasn't achieved at all.

Absolutely.Amazing is the word I would use for his achievements at lowly Brentford.

[SoccerHQ]

I wouldn't quite go far as amazing but he's kept them punching above their weight and after building for two years they are ready to finish top 6 this season, won all their home games so far.

A year ago I didn't think he was ready for this job, I do now.

Not saying he will turn us into the next Man. City but if you want a realistic domestic candidate who can actually coach on the training pitch, he's one of the best out there I think.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

People seem to think he's done amazingly to keep little old Brentford afloat. Even though they made the playoffs under Warburton.

They should make the play offs every season then on 8k crowds and selling their best players every season?

Even without results he's a guy who can on the training pitch improve players and also over time create a team with an identity, two things the present incumbent hasn't achieved at all.

Absolutely.Amazing is the word I would use for his achievements at lowly Brentford.

If we were going down that road (ie. successful manager from smaller club in our division) Chris Wilder widdles all over Smith. His managerial record over the past few years is pretty phenomenal.

[berneboy]

People seem to think he's done amazingly to keep little old Brentford afloat. Even though they made the playoffs under Warburton.

They should make the play offs every season then on 8k crowds and selling their best players every season?

Even without results he's a guy who can on the training pitch improve players and also over time create a team with an identity, two things the present incumbent hasn't achieved at all.

Absolutely.Amazing is the word I would use for his achievements at lowly Brentford.

If we were going down that road (ie. successful manager from smaller club in our division) Chris Wilder widdles all over Smith. His managerial record over the past few years is pretty phenomenal.

Sheffield United was his boyhood club a la Dean Smith

[TonyD]

Please don't. He's achieved fuck all.

Agreed. I don’t get the love in for DS

This.  Brentford’s relative success is as much due to the positive collective club ethos as Smiths’s management. 

[steffo]

Dean Smith is lucky that he manages a 'London Club'! Agents can get an overseas player to sign for a club in the capital rather than the other cities. Think about it London or Leeds......

[Monty]

There's a lot of flawed and outdated thinking on this thread.  Hiring a manager because of previous links to the club s so 20th century.  Just because we loved him as a player Mellberg has done nothing to warrant serious consideration.  Smith's credentials are better but some still seem to think the fact he's a Villa fan makes him a better candidate.  It doesn't.  Of all the successful managers in England, how many of them had any links with the clubs they manage or managed?  That kind of thinking is as dinosaur as "must have championship experience", "has got teams promoted before" and "who could we get who is better"?.     It doesn't have to be an "obvious choice" either. DoFs, directors, and CEOs worth their salt should have a plan in mind and a database of coaches at hand with an  idea of which of them might be a good fit for longer term success.  And as for "who would come here" we're Aston Villa, not fucking Wigan, we're still a big name in football and many would be honoured to manage us.  For me the only criteria are have they shown they can coach teams to play good and successful football consistently.    Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

I think this.

[Damo70]

I'd go all out for Rodgers.Now.

I am trying to work out if that is a serious post or a Paul Rodgers/Free/All Right Now pun.