Quote from: aj2k77 on August 15, 2018, 09:18:22 AMCan anyone think of any reason why we loaned this guy anyway seeing as we already had a capable understudy and needed a solid number one?Really wish I knew the answer to that one. I know he's only had one game, it's just some of the things he did. Like that half baked chip out he did straight to a Yeovil player, total unforced error could've easily lead to a goal. It's a huge gamble bringing 2 new keepers in at once with no Championship experience.
Can anyone think of any reason why we loaned this guy anyway seeing as we already had a capable understudy and needed a solid number one?
Quote from: PaulWinch again on August 15, 2018, 09:42:52 AMQuote from: Three Spires Villa on August 15, 2018, 09:15:29 AMQuote from: PaulWinch again on August 15, 2018, 09:07:49 AMI don’t think we’ve seen anywhere near enough of Nyland or Moreira to make a judgement yet.That’s true, but his punching wasn’t very good and put himself under pressure. Sam was similar when he first came, punched everything Yep and I think it’s something that can be worked on. In Spain/Portugal there’s very much a culture of punching the ball, rather than claiming it. It might just take some time to adjust. Obviously an extreme example, as he’s excellent, but De Gea’s catching and general command of his area was poor when he came to England and now it’s a real attribute of his game.He's had one game!I agree, De Gea looked extremely suspect when he first came to this country. Goalkeepers are an odd breed, I used to wonder why they punch rather than catching so much but then when you see the movement of modern balls it's not a surprise.He didn't concede, didn't make any howlers, he saved a penalty and we won the match.
Quote from: Three Spires Villa on August 15, 2018, 09:15:29 AMQuote from: PaulWinch again on August 15, 2018, 09:07:49 AMI don’t think we’ve seen anywhere near enough of Nyland or Moreira to make a judgement yet.That’s true, but his punching wasn’t very good and put himself under pressure. Sam was similar when he first came, punched everything Yep and I think it’s something that can be worked on. In Spain/Portugal there’s very much a culture of punching the ball, rather than claiming it. It might just take some time to adjust. Obviously an extreme example, as he’s excellent, but De Gea’s catching and general command of his area was poor when he came to England and now it’s a real attribute of his game.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on August 15, 2018, 09:07:49 AMI don’t think we’ve seen anywhere near enough of Nyland or Moreira to make a judgement yet.That’s true, but his punching wasn’t very good and put himself under pressure. Sam was similar when he first came, punched everything
I don’t think we’ve seen anywhere near enough of Nyland or Moreira to make a judgement yet.
Needs to be a lot braver. That might come with experience but not a game that filled me with confidence. Penalty save apart, that was very ordinary. Kicking not great either.
I just saw the extended highlights on Youtube (around 5.20 min) - in the build up for the disallowed goal, I think he actually saves the first shot with a quick arm to the side (was in doubt if defender on the line, but his positioning makes me doubt that)
Quote from: Gerrin on August 15, 2018, 10:33:40 AMQuote from: aj2k77 on August 15, 2018, 09:18:22 AMCan anyone think of any reason why we loaned this guy anyway seeing as we already had a capable understudy and needed a solid number one?Really wish I knew the answer to that one. I know he's only had one game, it's just some of the things he did. Like that half baked chip out he did straight to a Yeovil player, total unforced error could've easily lead to a goal. It's a huge gamble bringing 2 new keepers in at once with no Championship experience.Why does championship experience matter? If we had a chance to bring in Courtois would you be against it because he has no championship experience? I know that's an extreme example but I'm fed up of seeing championship experience used as a requirement as if this league plays a completely different game to anywhere else in the world. Most of th eWolves signings last summer had no championship experience but they were good players and they dominated the league. Being good at the job you're going to be given is all that matters.Specific to the question, I suspect we'd been planning on going with Steer as first choice and Moreira was seen as a better backup than Bunn (which is fair, an actual bun would be a better option) but we then had word that Nyland was available and decided that he was a better option than Steer (given all the injuries this is fairly sensible) but that left us with 3 keepers for 2 spots and Steer not getting the game time he needs so out he goes to get a run of starts and, hopefully, prove he's over the injury jinx.
Quote from: paul_e on August 15, 2018, 11:51:09 AMQuote from: Gerrin on August 15, 2018, 10:33:40 AMQuote from: aj2k77 on August 15, 2018, 09:18:22 AMCan anyone think of any reason why we loaned this guy anyway seeing as we already had a capable understudy and needed a solid number one?Really wish I knew the answer to that one. I know he's only had one game, it's just some of the things he did. Like that half baked chip out he did straight to a Yeovil player, total unforced error could've easily lead to a goal. It's a huge gamble bringing 2 new keepers in at once with no Championship experience.Why does championship experience matter? If we had a chance to bring in Courtois would you be against it because he has no championship experience? I know that's an extreme example but I'm fed up of seeing championship experience used as a requirement as if this league plays a completely different game to anywhere else in the world. Most of th eWolves signings last summer had no championship experience but they were good players and they dominated the league. Being good at the job you're going to be given is all that matters.Specific to the question, I suspect we'd been planning on going with Steer as first choice and Moreira was seen as a better backup than Bunn (which is fair, an actual bun would be a better option) but we then had word that Nyland was available and decided that he was a better option than Steer (given all the injuries this is fairly sensible) but that left us with 3 keepers for 2 spots and Steer not getting the game time he needs so out he goes to get a run of starts and, hopefully, prove he's over the injury jinx.I don't think comparing Wolves Championship rookies is a fair comparison to introducing a foreign keeper to a new league, Wolves had Ruddy. Goalkeeper is a key position where you need experience, did we not learn that with Gollini.
Where the hell has this bloke disappeared to? I know he was one for the future but on loan and not even in the 18? Bizarre signing.