Quote from: kippaxvilla2 on June 11, 2018, 08:12:17 PMAgenda for tomorrow Item 1 - 2018-19 Budgets - 5 minutes.That long?
Agenda for tomorrow Item 1 - 2018-19 Budgets - 5 minutes.
I still like and trust Dr Tony.And I'm just waiting to see where we go.If I'm upset about anyone (,barring SuperRoss) it's Steve Bruce so I personally hope he goes quickly and we rebuild in a more long-term fashion.
Deep down we all must have expected this. We've lived through it under Lerner. Living beyond our means. Reckless spending, which then came back to haunt us. It's only by the grace of McGrath that Lerner didn't ruin us, and had we gone down sooner and he hadn't found a buyer, he'd have got us to this point too. Tony's come in and done exactly the same thing and if anything, with even more reckless abandon and even less understanding of running a football club. We all buy into the vision. We get caught up in the spending sprees, the excitement of spending like we have an endless pot of cash. We questionned signing people like Curtis Davies for 10 mill, Coker for 8, during the Lerner years. I don't think we've ever spent as ludicrously as we did in the Championship, one Championship standard players. In what logical world should Ross McCormack cost as much as he did? Or Hogan?I got excited. Many of us got excited. But whilst the majority of us probably repressed the reality to the back of our minds (I did), the crippling reality is happening now. We're now seeing just what happens if you spend like this in the Championship, firing out transfer fees and Wages that we realistically would struggle to cover with our running costs in the Premiership never mind the second tier. We gambled big on Champions League football under Lerner. We lost the gamble. We gambled again under Tony. We lost. And our approach to managerial appointments seems to be persistently aimed at short term thinking.
Quote from: supertom on June 12, 2018, 08:13:24 AMDeep down we all must have expected this. We've lived through it under Lerner. Living beyond our means. Reckless spending, which then came back to haunt us. It's only by the grace of McGrath that Lerner didn't ruin us, and had we gone down sooner and he hadn't found a buyer, he'd have got us to this point too. Tony's come in and done exactly the same thing and if anything, with even more reckless abandon and even less understanding of running a football club. We all buy into the vision. We get caught up in the spending sprees, the excitement of spending like we have an endless pot of cash. We questionned signing people like Curtis Davies for 10 mill, Coker for 8, during the Lerner years. I don't think we've ever spent as ludicrously as we did in the Championship, one Championship standard players. In what logical world should Ross McCormack cost as much as he did? Or Hogan?I got excited. Many of us got excited. But whilst the majority of us probably repressed the reality to the back of our minds (I did), the crippling reality is happening now. We're now seeing just what happens if you spend like this in the Championship, firing out transfer fees and Wages that we realistically would struggle to cover with our running costs in the Premiership never mind the second tier. We gambled big on Champions League football under Lerner. We lost the gamble. We gambled again under Tony. We lost. And our approach to managerial appointments seems to be persistently aimed at short term thinking. So your saying.. third time lucky!? ;-)Well summed up!!
Quote from: VinnieChase84 on June 12, 2018, 09:55:21 AMQuote from: supertom on June 12, 2018, 08:13:24 AMDeep down we all must have expected this. We've lived through it under Lerner. Living beyond our means. Reckless spending, which then came back to haunt us. It's only by the grace of McGrath that Lerner didn't ruin us, and had we gone down sooner and he hadn't found a buyer, he'd have got us to this point too. Tony's come in and done exactly the same thing and if anything, with even more reckless abandon and even less understanding of running a football club. We all buy into the vision. We get caught up in the spending sprees, the excitement of spending like we have an endless pot of cash. We questionned signing people like Curtis Davies for 10 mill, Coker for 8, during the Lerner years. I don't think we've ever spent as ludicrously as we did in the Championship, one Championship standard players. In what logical world should Ross McCormack cost as much as he did? Or Hogan?I got excited. Many of us got excited. But whilst the majority of us probably repressed the reality to the back of our minds (I did), the crippling reality is happening now. We're now seeing just what happens if you spend like this in the Championship, firing out transfer fees and Wages that we realistically would struggle to cover with our running costs in the Premiership never mind the second tier. We gambled big on Champions League football under Lerner. We lost the gamble. We gambled again under Tony. We lost. And our approach to managerial appointments seems to be persistently aimed at short term thinking. So your saying.. third time lucky!? ;-)Well summed up!! Got to say....I wasnt expecting this. I thought we spent a lot first year but imagined the value of the squad was going up accordingly. I also presumed the parachute payments and money from sales would more than cover this. I thought the wage bill was going to be reduced with all of the premiership players we let go and the new lads coming from the championship on lower wages. I realised we were spending alot on loan player wages but no biggy - if we dont go up we just send them back. Besides, a few of our decent earners are out on loan to offset a portion of this surely.Even when FFP starting looming i thought surely we can offload one or two players (not our star players) and balance the booksIm completely naive but I trusted Xia and Wyness and thought for the first time in donkeys years we were being run properly. When the said they had aplan for both eventualities, i believed them.Now that the sheer level of incompetence and fuckwittery is laid bare for us all to see, I cant believe many people can hand on heart say "i knew this would happen" even with the vocal minority airing doubts over Dr T