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Offline Ad@m

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #60 on: May 28, 2018, 11:02:51 AM »
PNE are warming up a new song “Twenty grand twenty grand Jackie  Grealish...”

Funny how the FFP thing has come home to roost. It should have been implemented from the start and the “parachute” money is quite simply a joke that unfairly rewards failure.

Did no one see this coming no one?

The parachute payments are so a relegated team doesnt have to sell it's entire squad and replace them with kids.

That's what they're intended for, but as we've shown they actually get used to buy loads of players in the gamble that you'll get straight back up.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #61 on: May 28, 2018, 11:32:59 AM »
My plan would be as follows. If we have to sell a key player to balance the books then so be it.

My choice would be Kodjia. Not because i don't rate him, he's our best forward, but we managed pretty much the whole season without him. I reckon we'd get 12-15m for him. Give that to the accountants. If we can get grabban on loan again then great, if not someone else.

send back all the loans. like Snodgrass and Onamah. Whoever is manager will have to get a tune out of our youth players plus tshbola.

Try and sell Bjarnason, taylor, lansbury whelan elphick and any other deadwood we can move. Hopefully that will scrape about 8-10m together to spend on our defence

We go again.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2018, 11:37:56 AM by sickbeggar »

Offline garyshawsknee

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2018, 11:39:26 AM »
I don't see many paying that for Kodjia, I fear it'll be Chester who goes for that amount.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2018, 11:40:43 AM »
I would differ in that Chester, Jedinak, Grealish and Kodjia represent a good spine and it would be my aim to keep that and adorn it with a mix; pace and movement has to be key.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2018, 11:41:19 AM »
If we lose Chester then it's almost an entire new back 5 next season and I can't see us getting it that right to mount a challenge.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #65 on: May 28, 2018, 11:42:29 AM »
Kodja would be the obvious sacrifice to me as well but surely we’d get back far more than we paid for him?


Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2018, 11:44:03 AM »
Kodjia is a proven championship striker. He's in his prime at 28, and he's an international. I think in today's market he's worth  12-15m of anyone's money. If he'd played and scored goals this season he'd be in the 20m price range.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2018, 11:47:23 AM »
If I were one of the relegated teams I’d pay £20m for him, easy for me to say though.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2018, 11:51:38 AM »
Tshbola, Gil, Gollini, McCormack, Hogan, Lansbury, Gardner, De Laet, Richards, Elphick. There's got to be a few quid in that lot, even if we are subsiding wages elsewhere as they have contributed almost nothing to the team this season. We have to move them on. If we keep Kodjia, Jedinak, Chester, Grealish then it's a great start for next season.

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2018, 11:54:25 AM »
Under no circumstances should *insert name of player we signed from Reading for a silly amount of money who we sent on loan once saw how good he is* ever return to Villa. I can't cope with hearing that bloody Queen song each time his name is mentioned.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2018, 11:55:05 AM »
Tshbola, Gil, Gollini, McCormack, Hogan, Lansbury, Gardner, De Laet, Richards, Elphick. There's got to be a few quid in that lot, even if we are subsiding wages elsewhere as they have contributed almost nothing to the team this season. We have to move them on. If we keep Kodjia, Jedinak, Chester, Grealish then it's a great start for next season.


well i'm looking at getting 12-15m for the bank plus another 10m for signings and that's not even the FFP worse case scenario. I think we'd struggle to get half of that amount from the players you've listed

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2018, 11:55:38 AM »
I’d have a guess that’s about a third of the weekly amount we need to save if we get rid of that lot. It’s a start.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2018, 12:00:23 PM by PeterWithe »

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2018, 11:59:03 AM »
Fulham managed to hang to to Cairney last summer so I’m hopeful we can do the same with Jack
Because both situations are identical  :-*

They had a high wage bill, no parachute money and were turning down £20m bids for West Ham and Newcastle. Not too dis similar
Why don’t you read the article above and then explain how it’s the same.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #73 on: May 28, 2018, 12:01:58 PM »
This is the best summary I found. Can't vouch for its veracity but I found it both convincing and obviously alarming. In short, says we need to generate c £40m next season.

https://heartoftheholte1874.wordpress.com/2018/02/20/villa-play-ffp-roulette-as-the-consequences-of-failing-this-season-becomes-clear/#more-37

Any accountant types able to comment on this piece?
Before the wishful thinking crap, why don’t people read this.

Offline john e

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #74 on: May 28, 2018, 12:03:46 PM »
I’m co confused

have we got no money to spend because we’ve got no money
or we have money but we can’t spend it because of FFP

 


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