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Offline Roysmert

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #945 on: May 06, 2019, 10:39:13 AM »
And we mustn't forget that the thought of it being sold out (when it's not) puts people off trying to buy because they think it's sold out. Heard that loads of times.

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #946 on: May 06, 2019, 10:43:46 AM »
I'd think we'd get into the low 50s for some games. Even in this league.

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #947 on: May 06, 2019, 10:46:41 AM »
Marketed correctly, we could average fifty thousand, if we had a ground that held 55k or more. The drag effect of having loads of midweek games wouldn't affect us so much if we got promoted, for starters.

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #948 on: May 06, 2019, 10:55:11 AM »
That's the thing with our fanbase which caught Lerner out.

We get "good" attendances regardless of what's going on on the pitch. We're arguably the most loyal fans out there. But even when we're doing well it doesn't get that much better - during our run of 6th place finishes in the Prem we only sold out half a dozen times a season.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a 50k capacity stadium (ie build it and they will come) but it would be a gamble based on our track record.

This is what I've always said. Throughout our history we've usually had good attendances but rarely had great ones. It's fine to say we could fill 50 thousand for the big games, and maybe more than that, but for just as many against (insert team at the bottom of whatever league we're in) we struggle to get much above thirty. Villa Park is a horrible, lifeless place with twelve thousand empty seats; imagine it with three more Upper Trinities?

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #949 on: May 06, 2019, 10:56:39 AM »
That's the thing with our fanbase which caught Lerner out.

We get "good" attendances regardless of what's going on on the pitch. We're arguably the most loyal fans out there. But even when we're doing well it doesn't get that much better - during our run of 6th place finishes in the Prem we only sold out half a dozen times a season.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a 50k capacity stadium (ie build it and they will come) but it would be a gamble based on our track record.

There was one year under O'Neill (07/08) when we sold out most weeks, and averaged over 40K.

It wasn't most weeks at all and that was the first year we finished 6th. The next two years we finished 6th and our average dropped each season.

Offline GordonCowansisthegreatest

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #950 on: May 06, 2019, 03:59:40 PM »
That's the thing with our fanbase which caught Lerner out.

We get "good" attendances regardless of what's going on on the pitch. We're arguably the most loyal fans out there. But even when we're doing well it doesn't get that much better - during our run of 6th place finishes in the Prem we only sold out half a dozen times a season.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a 50k capacity stadium (ie build it and they will come) but it would be a gamble based on our track record.

There was one year under O'Neill (07/08) when we sold out most weeks, and averaged over 40K.

It wasn't most weeks at all and that was the first year we finished 6th. The next two years we finished 6th and our average dropped each season.
That was because the football served up was sh!t....
I think that DS variety will attract much better crowds.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #951 on: May 06, 2019, 04:25:28 PM »
strange thought that Terry has witnessed bigger crowds since joining Villa than he did at Chelsea.

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #952 on: May 06, 2019, 08:35:33 PM »
That's the thing with our fanbase which caught Lerner out.

We get "good" attendances regardless of what's going on on the pitch. We're arguably the most loyal fans out there. But even when we're doing well it doesn't get that much better - during our run of 6th place finishes in the Prem we only sold out half a dozen times a season.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a 50k capacity stadium (ie build it and they will come) but it would be a gamble based on our track record.

This is what I've always said. Throughout our history we've usually had good attendances but rarely had great ones. It's fine to say we could fill 50 thousand for the big games, and maybe more than that, but for just as many against (insert team at the bottom of whatever league we're in) we struggle to get much above thirty. Villa Park is a horrible, lifeless place with twelve thousand empty seats; imagine it with three more Upper Trinities?

This is true and there aren't that many clubs who would bring to Villa Park what we take to other grounds, except maybe for the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool.  I reckon 44 to 48k would more than suffice.

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #953 on: May 06, 2019, 08:37:16 PM »
You cant take the club forwards if you're worrying about the past. Build it and they will come.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #954 on: May 06, 2019, 09:09:50 PM »
Rebuild it when we're safely back in the prem and attempting to qualify for europe again.

Offline KRS

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #955 on: May 06, 2019, 10:14:26 PM »
I've mentioned this previously but I understand the stadium for the Commonwealth games will hold approx 40,000. Would it be feasible to move there for a season if we need to make significant improvements to Villa Park? A whole new stadium could be built in a year easily enough.

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #956 on: May 06, 2019, 11:05:45 PM »
And there was me thinking you predicted Boro on 75 points.  ;D
No I reposted my original predictions...maybe it got revised half way through based on some actual updates left with remaining original predictions ? I’m sure you’ll know 🤣🤣

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #957 on: May 06, 2019, 11:11:10 PM »
That's the thing with our fanbase which caught Lerner out.

We get "good" attendances regardless of what's going on on the pitch. We're arguably the most loyal fans out there. But even when we're doing well it doesn't get that much better - during our run of 6th place finishes in the Prem we only sold out half a dozen times a season.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a 50k capacity stadium (ie build it and they will come) but it would be a gamble based on our track record.

There was one year under O'Neill (07/08) when we sold out most weeks, and averaged over 40K.

It wasn't most weeks at all and that was the first year we finished 6th. The next two years we finished 6th and our average dropped each season.
That was because the football served up was sh!t....
I think that DS variety will attract much better crowds.

I can't imagine West Ham fans are overwhelmed by their style of play but they've still averaged over 56,000 for three seasons.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #958 on: May 06, 2019, 11:32:15 PM »
That's the thing with our fanbase which caught Lerner out.

We get "good" attendances regardless of what's going on on the pitch. We're arguably the most loyal fans out there. But even when we're doing well it doesn't get that much better - during our run of 6th place finishes in the Prem we only sold out half a dozen times a season.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a 50k capacity stadium (ie build it and they will come) but it would be a gamble based on our track record.

There was one year under O'Neill (07/08) when we sold out most weeks, and averaged over 40K.

It wasn't most weeks at all and that was the first year we finished 6th. The next two years we finished 6th and our average dropped each season.
That was because the football served up was sh!t....
I think that DS variety will attract much better crowds.

I can't imagine West Ham fans are overwhelmed by their style of play but they've still averaged over 56,000 for three seasons.

Actual fans attending are much lower. 56,000 includes the masses of giveaways and hugely reduced tickets. There was an investigation in to premier league clubs and official attendances and actual attendances and West Hams were just over 40,000 on average but reported as much higher because of the handouts. It was on BBC website, probably still google-able.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #959 on: May 07, 2019, 12:06:55 AM »
That's the thing with our fanbase which caught Lerner out.

We get "good" attendances regardless of what's going on on the pitch. We're arguably the most loyal fans out there. But even when we're doing well it doesn't get that much better - during our run of 6th place finishes in the Prem we only sold out half a dozen times a season.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if we had a 50k capacity stadium (ie build it and they will come) but it would be a gamble based on our track record.

There was one year under O'Neill (07/08) when we sold out most weeks, and averaged over 40K.

It wasn't most weeks at all and that was the first year we finished 6th. The next two years we finished 6th and our average dropped each season.
That was because the football served up was sh!t....
I think that DS variety will attract much better crowds.

I can't imagine West Ham fans are overwhelmed by their style of play but they've still averaged over 56,000 for three seasons.

Mid table in the prem and they have splashed out on bums on seats players over last three years....Payet, Felipe Anderson, Jordan Hugill......

Get them back in the championship and they'd struggle to get over 40k.

If we go up they'd be an initial feel good factor so I can see us getting 40k crowds for more than half our games.

Good Time to do a rebuild would be say March of the first season back if we're comfortably established but obviously would need planning permission well before. Important not to play a whole season anyway infront of construction boards as I think Arsenal did in the early 90s.

 


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