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Offline footyskillz

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #615 on: February 10, 2019, 11:26:44 AM »
I suspect if by a miracle we went up, there is still too much to do for Dean to turn this around and we would be facing a relegation battle. We need to build a core and a style before we go up ( he said positively) and then add quality when we have money

Any team that goes up would need some work done to help premier league status.

So the argument repeatedly made on here about team or squad not being ready or in a relegation battle could will be similar of all the clubs going up.

No guarantees of course .

That said villa are the club full that has a premier league feel and size .
And have a good chance as any if promoted.

Look at Fulham . Absolutely terrible with a mid table championship defence.
2 good managers have been in charge but still no defensive steel.

Cardiff have got a chance and edge, have the balance right to compete in a relegation battle.
And Warnock a capable experienced manager.
And are far better suited and equipped to stay up than Fulham despite all of Fulham half season success last year they have ballsed it.

Wolves have basically shown an advanced progression to be stable and secure premier league status.

Now villa going up would be beneficial as I don't think we be looking to get relegated.
Why wait around any longer down here building some perfect championship team





Offline Brassneck

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #616 on: February 10, 2019, 11:32:48 AM »
If we went up, we would have The keeper, (probably Mings) Jack & McGinn - 4 players.  I see us needing another 6 who will go straight into the starting 11 regardless of what division we're in next season.  The new RB would probably get a run either way.

I suspect that a relegation battle would have been on the cards regardless and anything else would have been a bonus.

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #617 on: February 10, 2019, 11:40:42 AM »
If we went up, we would have The keeper, (probably Mings) Jack & McGinn - 4 players.  I see us needing another 6 who will go straight into the starting 11 regardless of what division we're in next season.  The new RB would probably get a run either way.

I suspect that a relegation battle would have been on the cards regardless and anything else would have been a bonus.

And even if we got relegated, we would be coming down with the parachute money which hopefully we would spend a bit more wisely this time

Offline Damo70

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #618 on: February 10, 2019, 12:19:08 PM »
Actually surprised at league table given how bad we've been for months (two wins since start of December) and West Brom only 9 points better off than us.

To me it does seem a far lower standard of league this year compared to previous two seasons.

This time last year Wolves had 68 points on the board.  Previous year Newcastle had 65 and Brighton 64.

Current league leaders have 58 points so significant difference. If we had last season's squad and mentality I'd be very confident of top 2.


The Championship is always unpredictable and a relatively level playing field. That is what makes it the best league for me (apart from when I am betting on it)! I think this year a lot of the top half teams are of a similar standard to each other and they all look capable of conceding goals. If you look at each teams goals difference there isn't a team scoring loads and conceding few. Boro are fifth after conceding only 23 goals in 30 games, by far the best defensive record in the league. Albion are one place and two points above them having scored 25 more goals but have conceded 15 more goals than Boro.

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #619 on: February 10, 2019, 01:01:59 PM »
As much as I'd love the excitement of an of season surge into the play offs, I can't help thinking we'd be better off building for a title chasing campaign next season. I get the parachute money argument, but if we're just going to be dicked every week in the Premier league, we'd be back to the drawing board in 20-21 and most likely, having parted company with another one or two managers.

 

Offline tim

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #620 on: February 10, 2019, 01:13:07 PM »
As much as I'd love the excitement of an of season surge into the play offs, I can't help thinking we'd be better off building for a title chasing campaign next season. I get the parachute money argument, but if we're just going to be dicked every week in the Premier league, we'd be back to the drawing board in 20-21 and most likely, having parted company with another one or two managers.

 
Yep - if we can't go up convincingly, then the instant return seems inevitable. I's prefer playing decent football in good matches until we're ready to prove otherwise.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #621 on: February 10, 2019, 02:00:48 PM »
Yeah its all very well getting hammered every week in the premier and then getting the parachute money to build again, but you end up with a losing mentality hangover that we experienced, and of course you still end up with all your better players leaving because they want to stay in the premier. Sneaking into the premiership with half a squad and then buying better players sounds good on paper but it rarely works out imo.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #622 on: February 10, 2019, 02:04:26 PM »
In recent times there is a trend for sides newly promoted to the Premier League to cherry pick the best players from the teams who have just been relegated to the Championship.

Offline Marlon From Bearwood

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #623 on: February 10, 2019, 02:05:03 PM »
I don’t think you can pick and choose when you want to get promoted. We need to throw everything at it this season IMO as otherwise next season we’ll be without Tommy’s goals and probably Jack too.

Huddersfield were one of the worst teams to ever get promoted and they didn’t come straight back down. Cardiff may do the same this season.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #624 on: February 10, 2019, 02:23:06 PM »
Dunno. I think you need a core of a decent side to go up and then you add to that when you get in the premiership. Realistically we have Grealish, chester and McGinn we actually own. The rest of them are either not our players or already don't look good enough for the premier
« Last Edit: February 10, 2019, 02:25:33 PM by sickbeggar »

Offline Villa75

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #625 on: February 10, 2019, 04:15:24 PM »
There is no real argument to be had, claiming a team in mid table going nowhere fast is not ready for promotion.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #626 on: February 10, 2019, 04:29:08 PM »
There is no real argument to be had, claiming a team in mid table going nowhere fast is not ready for promotion.

I think the point is that even if we go on a fantastic second half of the season run and go up through the play offs like Fulham did last season we would be far from ready for the Premier League, even with a couple of decent signings. Just like Fulham this season.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #627 on: February 10, 2019, 04:41:28 PM »
especially as there are only 15 games to play and no sign at any point of a sustained run of form. Fulham won 23 out of their last 24 I think. We simply don't have any upward momentum.

Offline steamer

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #628 on: February 10, 2019, 04:43:58 PM »
Get promoted and be free of the spending rules.
Get promoted, we keep Jack, Mcginn maybe Tammy,Axel, Mings and the Goalie.
There are a couple of others that would fit in the squad
You test our ability to find talent, and we go again.
Stay down, you loose the loaneesm probably Jack and look for new talent.
I know what I prefer, get your fingers out, Smith and Team, anything less than play offs is not acceptable.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Championship 2018-2019
« Reply #629 on: February 10, 2019, 04:46:27 PM »
Agreed but we've left it too late - 14 draws tells the story.

 


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