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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1350 on: August 02, 2018, 04:23:32 PM »
I think the new owners will want to emphasise youth development so there may be pressure on him to blood the kids.

I appreciate the logic and the sentiment but unfortunately it is just not in SB's DNA to even consider youth unless he has either no choice due to injury or it suits him politically to prove a point

History clearly support this leaning towards seasoned pro's every time
Unless it’s some other clubs kids, then he is all for it, mysteriously.

He gave Keinan plenty of game time last season until he started to look a bit jaded.

"no choice due to injury"
And then binned him.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1351 on: August 02, 2018, 04:41:21 PM »
I'm sorry but that is exactly what we get with SB - he will only use them as a last resort and then use it as an excuse for not having a bigger squad

Grealish was already in the first team before he came so he cannot take any credit for his breakthrough

Completely with you on this hookey

And what others have said too about Bruce either bringing on Davies only due to injuries or last resort . And also Bruce bringing little of these youngers forward and limiting their progress .

And his way is not for nurturing he wants ready made.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1352 on: August 02, 2018, 05:27:26 PM »
I am guessing we will do no business until the Grealish money is received?  Although that theory doesn't hold up if Chester didn't move?  FFP at different scales presumably. Looks like this really will go to the last day knowing Levy.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1353 on: August 02, 2018, 07:16:56 PM »
I'm sorry but that is exactly what we get with SB - he will only use them as a last resort and then use it as an excuse for not having a bigger squad

Grealish was already in the first team before he came so he cannot take any credit for his breakthrough

Personally I wouldn't say Grealish 'broke through' really until last January. Whether that is thanks to Steve, someone else, or a combination of people is the question.

He started the vast majority of games under Di Matteo from memory.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1354 on: August 02, 2018, 08:30:56 PM »
The Daily Star have plucked this beauty out of thin air, just like they did with Henry...

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/720808/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Aston-Villa-HIJACK-Yerry-Mina-18m-bid-Barcelona-Gossip

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1355 on: August 02, 2018, 08:32:58 PM »
The Daily Star have plucked this beauty out of thin air, just like they did with Henry...

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/720808/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Aston-Villa-HIJACK-Yerry-Mina-18m-bid-Barcelona-Gossip

It’s not quite thin air. Some foreign news source plucked it out of thin air. The Star are just joining in.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1356 on: August 02, 2018, 08:37:51 PM »
The Daily Star have plucked this beauty out of thin air, just like they did with Henry...

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/720808/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Aston-Villa-HIJACK-Yerry-Mina-18m-bid-Barcelona-Gossip

It’s not quite thin air. Some foreign news source plucked it out of thin air. The Star are just joining in.
Smoggy air then.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1357 on: August 02, 2018, 08:41:19 PM »
Looks like Adama to Wolves is on so a handy windfall coming our way?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1358 on: August 02, 2018, 08:44:27 PM »
Looks like Adama to Wolves is on so a handy windfall coming our way?
3.6 million?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1359 on: August 02, 2018, 09:00:07 PM »
The Daily Star have plucked this beauty out of thin air, just like they did with Henry...

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/720808/Man-Utd-transfer-news-Aston-Villa-HIJACK-Yerry-Mina-18m-bid-Barcelona-Gossip

It’s not quite thin air. Some foreign news source plucked it out of thin air. The Star are just joining in.
Smoggy air then.

I can sense United quaking in their boots from here.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1360 on: August 02, 2018, 09:09:01 PM »
I'm sorry but that is exactly what we get with SB - he will only use them as a last resort and then use it as an excuse for not having a bigger squad

Grealish was already in the first team before he came so he cannot take any credit for his breakthrough

Personally I wouldn't say Grealish 'broke through' really until last January. Whether that is thanks to Steve, someone else, or a combination of people is the question.

He started the vast majority of games under Di Matteo from memory.

And was largely crap. Ok, i supppose he 'broke into the team' in 2015 but the point I was making is that he became the player Spurs and Chelsea are supposedly interested in from Jan this year. Does anyone honestly think that top half Premier League teams would be looking to sign him based on how he played before that?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1361 on: August 02, 2018, 09:32:44 PM »
He's sorted himself off the pitch which he needed to.

He also had really good quality either side of him in Adomah and Snodgrass last season.

I defend SB on a fair bit but would say he was more a beneficary of Grealish getting his act together more than anything.

Now if someone like O'Hare properly breaks through out of nowhere that will be a credit to the manager but he wasn't hugely willing last season to give players like him chances.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1362 on: August 02, 2018, 09:38:13 PM »
With Grealish's success being largely down to sorting himself off the pitch, is a move to London really going to help him there?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1363 on: August 02, 2018, 10:17:02 PM »
I'm sorry but that is exactly what we get with SB - he will only use them as a last resort and then use it as an excuse for not having a bigger squad

Grealish was already in the first team before he came so he cannot take any credit for his breakthrough

Personally I wouldn't say Grealish 'broke through' really until last January. Whether that is thanks to Steve, someone else, or a combination of people is the question.

He started the vast majority of games under Di Matteo from memory.

And was largely crap. Ok, i supppose he 'broke into the team' in 2015 but the point I was making is that he became the player Spurs and Chelsea are supposedly interested in from Jan this year. Does anyone honestly think that top half Premier League teams would be looking to sign him based on how he played before that?

That's not the same thing though.

Also 2 goals and a couple of assists under RDM isn't largely crap.  He was playing well early last season but the team overall was a mess. Bruce pushed him 20-30yards deeper when he arrived and he was utterly ineffective, to the point where Bruce was leaving him on the bench (in favour of playing Lansbury or trying to shoehorn JK and Hogan into the team). Even in the summer he was barely playing him (and picking on the left wing when he did start) until he got injured and then the myth of building the team around him emerged so he could use it as leverage to sign Snodgrass.  Even when he was fit and ready Onomah was playing in that position ahead of him until he got injured and Grealish destroyed Boro and forced himself in.

Bruce gets, in my opinion, very little credit for the turn around in Grealish which was, in my opinion, mostly about realising how short his career could be (because of the injury) and having the influence of Terry around.

Offline four fornicholl

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #1364 on: August 02, 2018, 10:21:42 PM »
Bazeley Graham definitely.

 


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