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Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #585 on: July 07, 2018, 03:53:23 PM »
Genuinely don't remember posting that.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #586 on: July 07, 2018, 04:11:02 PM »
Genuinely don't remember posting that.

Haha, fair play.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #587 on: July 07, 2018, 04:14:51 PM »
Edit: wrong thread. I really am losing it 😢

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #588 on: July 07, 2018, 05:21:26 PM »
Yeah he did fine for a couple of games. I would agree with PWS though, world of difference to doing it over a season as 16/17 showed when he had to be taken out of the team for his own good.

We'll probably get a random CB in on loan and Jedinak will also play his fair share there would be my guess. That's assuming Chester isn't sold of course.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #589 on: July 08, 2018, 04:12:31 AM »
Seems we are stuck with Dr Doom and our feckless manager and need to sell players.

Have seen Hogan, and Kodjia linked with moves today, as well as Grealish.

I see Leicester are looking at paying over £20m for a young midfielder at Norwich. If that is the case then Grealish should be going for upwards of £30m. If the reports of Spurs only offering £12m are accurate, then I would rather we keep him and take a points deduction.

I would be delighted if some mug took Hogan off our hands, but reports I have seen have that down as a loan. So no money comes in but we cut the wage bill. Not great but the upside is that Bruce can't play him.

I like Kodjia but tbh if we got offered anything over £8m we should take it, he doesn't look as good since his injury.

If all those left we would still have McCormack, RHM and Davis which is a reasonable set of strikers. RHM could be really good, but we will never know if we keep playing dreck like Hogan instead of giving him a chance.

Maddison ofNorwich signed for Leicester a week ago for 24 Mill

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #590 on: July 08, 2018, 09:31:44 AM »
Reading reports that we have to take a 50% hike in our valuation for Jack just in order to free up money for loans, who is Bruce going to be able to get in through the loan market that would add much value anyway given our current appeal to half decent players? I accept we have to sell Jack for FFP and liquidity reasons but is c£12m going to make much difference to that anyway? With what we have on the books (assuming sales of Kodjia, Hogan, Chester, Hourihane, Adomah) we could still just about manage with what we have on the books - wouldn’t be inspiring but we could manage without going into the market:

Gk: Steer, Bunn, Sarkic
Fb: Bree, Elmo, Hutton, Taylor
Cb: Elphick, Richards (!), the three from the U23s
Cm: Whelan, Birkar, Jedi, Gardner (!), Lydon, Lansbury
Am: McCormack, O’Hare, possibly Jack
Wide: Green, Elmo (assuming not playing at RB)
Cf: Davis, RHM, McCormack (assuming not playing at Am)

There will be others I’ve forgotten but it’s a bang average championship squad but it (a) might keep us up until contracts and transfer instalments expire in 12 months time and (b) allows us to play hard ball with Jacks valuation

I know it doesn’t help much with FFP but the sales of Chester (£10m), Kodjia (£8m), Hourihane (£6m), Adomah (£6m), Hogan (£4m), and others like De Laat & Gil (say £3m combined) would keep us solvent til at least January after taking off the wages of the players no longer on the books or loaned in last season

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #591 on: July 08, 2018, 09:58:09 AM »
That's a very sobering post Northern Soul.  Truly dreadful squad that could flirt with relegation if we're not careful.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #592 on: July 08, 2018, 10:02:34 AM »
That's a very sobering post Northern Soul.  Truly dreadful squad that could flirt with relegation if we're not careful.

That might not be the squad we end up with though. We might not lose all the players ANS predicts we will.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #593 on: July 08, 2018, 10:14:54 AM »
That's a very sobering post Northern Soul.  Truly dreadful squad that could flirt with relegation if we're not careful.

That might not be the squad we end up with though. We might not lose all the players ANS predicts we will.

Let's hope not eh? Hopefully Bruce gets a chance to replace some of them too.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #594 on: July 08, 2018, 11:07:51 AM »
Time to build a new playing style?
Since we’re stripped back and need to rebuild, how about 352?

                          Steer
              Elphick Chester Axel
Bree.  Lansbury Thor Hourihane Hutton
                      Kodjia Green

We’ve lost a winger in snod’s. We’re going to sell at least one striker. We will lose jack.
Just means we need to get more defenders and our depth is still impressive.
Green can play the ‘Sterling’ role

After England's adoption of a back three this summer, I think it will probably be in vogue this coming season.  De Laet could be used as a CB in a back three and so could Jedinak I suppose.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #595 on: July 08, 2018, 11:23:53 AM »
Time to build a new playing style?
Since we’re stripped back and need to rebuild, how about 352?

                          Steer
              Elphick Chester Axel
Bree.  Lansbury Thor Hourihane Hutton
                      Kodjia Green

We’ve lost a winger in snod’s. We’re going to sell at least one striker. We will lose jack.
Just means we need to get more defenders and our depth is still impressive.
Green can play the ‘Sterling’ role

After England's adoption of a back three this summer, I think it will probably be in vogue this coming season.  De Laet could be used as a CB in a back three and so could Jedinak I suppose.

Assuming Chester goes and we get Axel in on loan, Hutton could play left of 3 at the back, Green goes to left wing back and we are just short of a Sterling type - who could be RHM?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #596 on: July 08, 2018, 11:34:57 AM »
As the transfer window closes in just over 4 weeks I really don't see all these players going that some on here are predicting.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #597 on: July 08, 2018, 11:51:06 AM »
I thought that last season we had almost sorted the level of income v expenditure for FFP and it was just the drag from the previous seasons that was the problem.  If that is the case, our wages this season will be less than last and with only the loss of income from parachute payments to make up, we should not be losing money unless we sell players for less than book value.  Would a fine for failing FFP come in at the end of this season.  If so, are we not better holding off on a fire sale until Xmas or even end of season if agreements on sales are made at Xmas.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #598 on: July 08, 2018, 11:59:54 AM »
I thought that last season we had almost sorted the level of income v expenditure for FFP and it was just the drag from the previous seasons that was the problem.  If that is the case, our wages this season will be less than last and with only the loss of income from parachute payments to make up, we should not be losing money unless we sell players for less than book value.  Would a fine for failing FFP come in at the end of this season.  If so, are we not better holding off on a fire sale until Xmas or even end of season if agreements on sales are made at Xmas.

What gripes me about FFP is that Bournemouth have only just negotiated a fine of c£4.5m for “massively” exceeding it in their promotion season (3 years ago?), they sold Grabban the following day for £6m so ended up with cash in their pockets. Now, whether true or speculation, the horror of doing something similar is in the domesday territory

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #599 on: July 08, 2018, 12:29:19 PM »


i wonder if we're still able to do a deal for that lad Sean Clare at Sheff Weds ? out of contract and surely can't be on big wages. He's the type of signing i'd love to see us going for (if we can make any) this summer

 


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