Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread

[JJ-AV]

Shouldn’t have sold Nathan Baker

[sirlordbaltimore]

Shouldn’t have sold Nathan Baker

Many of us at the time couldn't see anything wrong with the Chester/Baker partnership at this level.

[Toronto Villa]

Baker was a liability and an injury waiting to happen. Let’s not wax lyrical about a bog standard footballer at this level. He didn’t want to be a squad player with us and he was too reliable to commit to as a regular starter.

[Brassneck]

Baker was a liability and an injury waiting to happen. Let’s not wax lyrical about a bog standard footballer at this level. He didn’t want to be a squad player with us and he was too reliable to commit to as a regular starter.

Whilst I agree with you regarding Baker, we have effectively swapped Baker to pay for Terry's wages for 12 months.

We are now left with neither player, no money to bring in a replacement and only one recognised CB.

To me, this is further evidence of the gamble we took last season.

[Toronto Villa]

Baker was a liability and an injury waiting to happen. Let’s not wax lyrical about a bog standard footballer at this level. He didn’t want to be a squad player with us and he was too reliable to commit to as a regular starter.

Whilst I agree with you regarding Baker, we have effectively swapped Baker to pay for Terry's wages for 12 months.

We are now left with neither player, no money to bring in a replacement and only one recognised CB.

To me, this is further evidence of the gamble we took last season.

Terry was a massive upgrade on Baker, amd outside of that one injury played in more games in one season at 36 than Baker ever did for us. The gamble was to not only achieve that but get us promoted which we should have done. That we didn’t isn’t related to the sale of Baker or the acquisition of Terry. It’s because the manager didn’t have the guts to try and win more games across the season let alone the final.

[Brassneck]

Baker was a liability and an injury waiting to happen. Let’s not wax lyrical about a bog standard footballer at this level. He didn’t want to be a squad player with us and he was too reliable to commit to as a regular starter.

Whilst I agree with you regarding Baker, we have effectively swapped Baker to pay for Terry's wages for 12 months.

We are now left with neither player, no money to bring in a replacement and only one recognised CB.

To me, this is further evidence of the gamble we took last season.

Terry was a massive upgrade on Baker, amd outside of that one injury played in more games in one season at 36 than Baker ever did for us. The gamble was to not only achieve that but get us promoted which we should have done. That we didn’t isn’t related to the sale of Baker or the acquisition of Terry. It’s because the manager didn’t have the guts to try and win more games across the season let alone the final.

Whatever the reason for failure to get promoted, the fact remains, we are now stuck without a CB because we swapped one in order to pay another one's wages for 12 months.

[paul_e]

The problem wasn't replacing Baker with Terry, it was signing Samba as the only backup meaning that, if we didn't go up we'd be left with Chester and Elphick (who Bruce clearly wanted out).

[Brassneck]

The problem wasn't replacing Baker with Terry, it was signing Samba as the only backup meaning that, if we didn't go up we'd be left with Chester and Elphick (who Bruce clearly wanted out).

Samba didn't cost us anything though.  We are now in a situation whereby we need to replace a first choice CB.

[manic-road]

The problem wasn't replacing Baker with Terry, it was signing Samba as the only backup meaning that, if we didn't go up we'd be left with Chester and Elphick (who Bruce clearly wanted out).

Samba didn't cost us anything though.  We are now in a situation whereby we need to replace a first choice CB.

Didn't cost anything apart from a signing on fee and wages...

[Mister E]

The problem wasn't replacing Baker with Terry, it was signing Samba as the only backup meaning that, if we didn't go up we'd be left with Chester and Elphick (who Bruce clearly wanted out).

Samba didn't cost us anything though.  We are now in a situation whereby we need to replace a first choice CB.

Didn't cost anything apart from a signing on fee and wages...

There wouldn’t have been a signing-on fee: he was out of contract. I bet his wages were pretty insignificant relatively.

[SheffieldVillain]

The problem wasn't replacing Baker with Terry, it was signing Samba as the only backup meaning that, if we didn't go up we'd be left with Chester and Elphick (who Bruce clearly wanted out).

Samba didn't cost us anything though.  We are now in a situation whereby we need to replace a first choice CB.

Didn't cost anything apart from a signing on fee and wages...

There wouldn’t have been a signing-on fee: he was out of contract. I bet his wages were pretty insignificant relatively.

Probably. The problem wasn't with signing Samba or even the cost of it, it was with him and a centre-midfielder being our only centre-back cover. While we had 5 right backs in the squad.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Baker was a liability and an injury waiting to happen. Let’s not wax lyrical about a bog standard footballer at this level. He didn’t want to be a squad player with us and he was too reliable to commit to as a regular starter.

And yet his season alongside Chester resulted in only letting in 6 goals more than golden boy Terry and Chester

Baker, was is and always will be perfectly able Championship defender

And as already pointed out, selling him just so we could afford an old players wages for a year was utterly mental. Now we're left with neither

[LeeB]

Baker was a liability and an injury waiting to happen. Let’s not wax lyrical about a bog standard footballer at this level. He didn’t want to be a squad player with us and he was too reliable to commit to as a regular starter.

And yet his season alongside Chester resulted in only letting in 6 goals more than golden boy Terry and Chester

Baker, was is and always will be perfectly able Championship defender

And as already pointed out, selling him just so we could afford an old players wages for a year was utterly mental. Now we're left with neither

Did he knock back the queue of more ambitious clubs lining up to sign him because he likes Bristol or something?

[Villafirst]

Villa won't be signing a replacement CB anytime soon. No money to play with.....more importantly, will the next tax bill and wages be paid at the end of the month? This is the reality of the situation. Meanwhile, where is the apology to the fans and reassurance for the future? Our twat of an owner is keeping his head low in Beijing.....

[Steve67]

Mail linking us with some Paris second division player, Samual Kohou or something like that.  Freebie.  I can't help thinking that deals for outgoing players are all but agreed and we are telling clubs that we need replacements before we let the likes of Chester and Elphick leave the club.