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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #240 on: May 30, 2018, 04:39:44 PM »
The only reason to let Dr Laet go is to shift his wages. If Hutton is happy to take 10k a week for next season then with him, Bree and Elmo we have enough at right back. Hutton is fine starting at left back too. I would try and shift Taylor on and buy a younger, faster left back as competition for Hutton. A faster centre half along with Chester is much needed, as is a backup. Let Samba go, Terry has gone already. Maybe Tuanzebe is a cheap option there with a more experienced starter. I am pretty sure there are enough free transfer players this summer we can plug the gaps with though, Warnock spent bugger all at Cardiff last summer, while Fulham had to sell McCormack to us.

In midfield Bjarnarson should be starting as the holding midfielder, he should have started the play off final. We played much better when he was starting. Jedinak can cover, and okay the more physical battles. Whelan should be sold on, I'm sure Pulis will buy him and take his wages off our hands. Beyond that I think Hourihane should be tried in a deeper role, he was much more of a deeper playmaker at Barnsley and has done well there a couple of times for us. Lansbury should be sold. Bring Doyle Hayes into the squad and get a loan centre midfielder that's got some legs. Our lack of running behind Jack is pitiful. Tsishbola needs settling or playing too.

It wide Green looked very good early in the season but then had some nasty injuries. Getting him fit and playing could be massive, he's a top prospect. Another year older I think next season could be huge for him. We need another pacey option though, someone like Callum Robinson would have been nice to call on! We have to try and keep Jack but I wills so Adomah if a decent bid came in. I know he's done really well but if there was one sacrifice I'd happily make it would be him. Again other clubs have shown faith in youth or found cheap options, look at Hoilett at Cardiff last season. We should have been scouting budget players all season. We never liked like getting 2nd so not going up should not have been a shock.

Up top it all comes down to how fit Kodjia is. If he's flying next season we could be fine. If he's not we have to sell McCormack and Hogan and find a couple of more functional options, one being a proper target man, while giving RHM his chance to play.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #241 on: May 30, 2018, 08:43:07 PM »
are you going to apply when Bruce goes?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #242 on: May 30, 2018, 08:48:26 PM »
After beating B-lose at home and going second and then hammering the Tatters to put ourselves back in contention we looked a very good bet to go up automatically. 

We fluffed our lines, but that should be the cue to add more quality in key areas this summer. Not completely decimate the squad and 'go again.'

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #243 on: May 31, 2018, 06:51:58 AM »
After beating B-lose at home and going second and then hammering the Tatters to put ourselves back in contention we looked a very good bet to go up automatically. 

We fluffed our lines, but that should be the cue to add more quality in key areas this summer. Not completely decimate the squad and 'go again.'

I think most would agree Kevin but the league would throw the book at us. And you know that because it's Villa they would probably dock enough points to not let us go up.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #244 on: May 31, 2018, 07:10:11 AM »
Tobias Pachonik from serie B side Carpi being linked. Free agent. No neither have I.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #245 on: May 31, 2018, 08:19:52 AM »
Tobias Pachonik from serie B side Carpi being linked. Free agent. No neither have I.

A quick google suggests he's a right back so I can see why we're linked, Bruce likes to keep a good stock of them.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #246 on: May 31, 2018, 08:29:17 AM »
quite a few clubs interested apparently.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #247 on: May 31, 2018, 08:36:57 AM »
Is Tuanzebe definitely signed up again for next season?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #248 on: May 31, 2018, 08:38:48 AM »
that was the rumour of a few weeks ago and I suppose  central defence is supposedly his best position...

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #249 on: May 31, 2018, 08:54:22 AM »
I wouldnt mind Onomah again if we could take him for another season. Would add pace and purpose to a midfield that will need it and with plenty of confidence from a manager like Dean Smith he could be the best player in the division.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #250 on: May 31, 2018, 11:25:16 AM »
yeah Onomah , Grealish , Ryan Woods , Houriane , o'hare and Jedi would be ok with Dean Smith ;)

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #251 on: May 31, 2018, 12:37:37 PM »
Elphick going to Reading perm..

So I make it we have Chester and at a stretch Jedinek left at CB's unless Richards can somehow pull his finger out ...

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #252 on: May 31, 2018, 12:58:10 PM »
The only reason to let Dr Laet go is to shift his wages. If Hutton is happy to take 10k a week for next season then with him, Bree and Elmo we have enough at right back. Hutton is fine starting at left back too. I would try and shift Taylor on and buy a younger, faster left back as competition for Hutton. A faster centre half along with Chester is much needed, as is a backup. Let Samba go, Terry has gone already. Maybe Tuanzebe is a cheap option there with a more experienced starter. I am pretty sure there are enough free transfer players this summer we can plug the gaps with though, Warnock spent bugger all at Cardiff last summer, while Fulham had to sell McCormack to us.

In midfield Bjarnarson should be starting as the holding midfielder, he should have started the play off final. We played much better when he was starting. Jedinak can cover, and okay the more physical battles. Whelan should be sold on, I'm sure Pulis will buy him and take his wages off our hands. Beyond that I think Hourihane should be tried in a deeper role, he was much more of a deeper playmaker at Barnsley and has done well there a couple of times for us. Lansbury should be sold. Bring Doyle Hayes into the squad and get a loan centre midfielder that's got some legs. Our lack of running behind Jack is pitiful. Tsishbola needs settling or playing too.

It wide Green looked very good early in the season but then had some nasty injuries. Getting him fit and playing could be massive, he's a top prospect. Another year older I think next season could be huge for him. We need another pacey option though, someone like Callum Robinson would have been nice to call on! We have to try and keep Jack but I wills so Adomah if a decent bid came in. I know he's done really well but if there was one sacrifice I'd happily make it would be him. Again other clubs have shown faith in youth or found cheap options, look at Hoilett at Cardiff last season. We should have been scouting budget players all season. We never liked like getting 2nd so not going up should not have been a shock.

Up top it all comes down to how fit Kodjia is. If he's flying next season we could be fine. If he's not we have to sell McCormack and Hogan and find a couple of more functional options, one being a proper target man, while giving RHM his chance to play.
Lots of sense there.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #253 on: May 31, 2018, 01:07:58 PM »
With amortization to consider, do you similarly have to factor in the purchase price to factor your overall loss or gain for FFP?

I.e. We sign Gollini for £5 million on a 5 year deal. His book value is therefore now £3 million. We sell him for £3.5 million, so we're £500k up on his book value. We then remove his £1.5 million wages from the balance sheet, so the difference is now £2 million.

Have we reduced the FFP deficit by £2 million? Or do we have to then factor the £1.5 million loss between disposal cost and acquisition cost? So we'd be only £500k up?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #254 on: May 31, 2018, 01:33:13 PM »
With amortization to consider, do you similarly have to factor in the purchase price to factor your overall loss or gain for FFP?

I.e. We sign Gollini for £5 million on a 5 year deal. His book value is therefore now £3 million. We sell him for £3.5 million, so we're £500k up on his book value. We then remove his £1.5 million wages from the balance sheet, so the difference is now £2 million.

Have we reduced the FFP deficit by £2 million? Or do we have to then factor the £1.5 million loss between disposal cost and acquisition cost? So we'd be only £500k up?
The Balance sheet is a list of the Assets and Liabilities and you subtract one from the other to determine Net Worth the Profit and Loss Account is the record of trading ie Revenue less costs and expenses = profit or Loss.
In the example you cite, the impact would be an increase in profit of 500k, (the gain on the asset is transfered to the Profit and loss account).
The reduction in wages would then improve the future trading position (Profit and Loss  Account) by 1.5 million.

 


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