The play offs.

[wittonwarrior]

If we do manage to get through tonight Wembley trip not to he cheapest  - the cost of failure

[Dave4471]

If we do win tonight do you think they'll be a pitch invasion like Fulham did last night?

[ADVILLAFAN]

If we do win tonight do you think they'll be a pitch invasion like Fulham did last night?

Hopefully not; 1) We’ve been to Wembley lots and it’s not exactly amazing. 2) We’d still have another match to win before getting promoted.

[Dave4471]

Part of the reason I was asking, is it a bit small time for us and also, we've won nothing yet.

[cdward]

I think most fans of football clubs are the same, we just want to win things.

An Everton supporting friend of mine just wants his team to win a trophy, their last one was 1995 FA Cup. He knows they won't win the PL anytime soon.
In the last 5 years Wigan have won the FA Cup and are current champions of the 3rd Division.
I would argue Wigan fans are happier than Everton fans right now, but Everton are probably classed as being more successful.

I just want us to win every game, starting tonight.

[Drummond]

Yes Brassneck finishing 17 to 15th in the the PL every season would be much more glorious than winning  the most famous trophy in world domestic football.

Yes Olaftab. I really said I aspired to finish 17th to 15th didn't I?

And as someone else mentioned, in order to win it, you need to be in the PL in any case - Just as Wigan were when they won it. When the FA Cup was in all of it's glory and splendor, it may well have been possible for a romantic giant killing by a lower tier side but not now. We have to move with the times and stop this selfish "I must see an FA Cup win in my lifetime" nonsense.

100%

You can be any team in any division in any tier as long as you enter. The higher the division the better quality you're likely to be and therefore more likely.

As for me being selfish, get a grip. Why is it selfish to want to win a bloody trophy? What makes your wishes more important than mine? It'a the only trophy I've not seen us win. When I was younger we'd won it more times than anyone else, now there are bloody managers who push us close.

I wish people like you would stop dismissing it. Next you'll think 'fuck the league, I want to be in the European Super League' or other such nonsense.

I like the history and prestige of our game, I'd like to think we might win a trophy rather than aiming to just play in something.

[Brassneck]

Yes Brassneck finishing 17 to 15th in the the PL every season would be much more glorious than winning  the most famous trophy in world domestic football.

Yes Olaftab. I really said I aspired to finish 17th to 15th didn't I?

And as someone else mentioned, in order to win it, you need to be in the PL in any case - Just as Wigan were when they won it. When the FA Cup was in all of it's glory and splendor, it may well have been possible for a romantic giant killing by a lower tier side but not now. We have to move with the times and stop this selfish "I must see an FA Cup win in my lifetime" nonsense.

100%

You can be any team in any division in any tier as long as you enter. The higher the division the better quality you're likely to be and therefore more likely.

As for me being selfish, get a grip. Why is it selfish to want to win a bloody trophy? What makes your wishes more important than mine? It'a the only trophy I've not seen us win. When I was younger we'd won it more times than anyone else, now there are bloody managers who push us close.

I wish people like you would stop dismissing it. Next you'll think 'fuck the league, I want to be in the European Super League' or other such nonsense.

I like the history and prestige of our game, I'd like to think we might win a trophy rather than aiming to just play in something.

It is selfish because the majority of our support could not give a toss about the older generation and their obsession with seeing Villa win every trophy.

If you want to win a trophy then great - don't we all?

However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.

I didn't dismiss the FA Cup. Others with more clout than I have did that over the past 20 years or so.

[Chico Hamilton III]

However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.

Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.

[Brassneck]

However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.

Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.

Correctamundo.

Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.

[dave.woodhall]

However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.

Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.

Correctamundo.

Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.

Silly ones being the ones you don't agree with?

[Brassneck]

However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.

Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.

Correctamundo.

Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.

Silly ones being the ones you don't agree with?

No - That would make yours silliest of all Dave.

Football has changed - Get over it. We no longer  squash fans onto already overcrowded terraces, we no longer have 11 players and 1 sub, we no longer have football boots that look like they'd snap a mans leg in half and we no longer have an FA Cup final that means as much as winning the league did. It is silly to try to hold onto these things to the detriment of how modern football is and deep down you know it.

[stuart r]

However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.

Damn those football fans and their silly obsessions.

Correctamundo.

Nothing wrong with obsessions - It's just the silly ones that should be damned.

Brassneck. We can’t have it both ways. I know you’re not bothered are you? Even so, I’m not going to argue.

[KevinGage]

I'd take winning the FA Cup over winning the Football League and Murdoch's offshoot. I am clearly silly to the point of certifiable.

[Drummond]

It is selfish because the majority of our support could not give a toss about the older generation and their obsession with seeing Villa win every trophy.

If you want to win a trophy then great - don't we all?

However, when you put your silly obsession ahead of the good of the club by stating winning the cup is better (for you) than playing in the PL then I consider it to be selfish.

I didn't dismiss the FA Cup. Others with more clout than I have did that over the past 20 years or so.

The majority? You speak for 51% or more of our fans do you?! How on earth can you do that? What are the 'older generation' that you don't give a toss about? You're rather an objectionable shit aren't you?

As for winning a trophy, it seems you don't really care, you just want to be playing in the big league with Bournemouth, Southampton, Palace, West Ham, Watford, Brighton et al. Glory, glory days.

Have you ever seen us win anything? Do you know what it feels like? Or are you just happy to make up the numbers because it's trendy?

Should we even enter the Cups any more? You say you aren't dismissing it, yet you don't seem bothered about winning it. You say others have dismissed it, why don't you be part of the group that do value it, stand up rather than being a dull, meek sheep....

As for putting the future of the club at risk by winning a cup, it's laughable isn't it that we've come to the point where winning isn't the goal, getting more money is. I couldn't give a shit how much money we've got if it doesn't achieve anything.

[Brassneck]

I'd take winning the FA Cup over winning the Football League and Murdoch's offshoot. I am clearly silly to the point of certifiable.

Selfish Kevin - not silly.

keep up.