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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #135 on: March 14, 2018, 09:35:45 AM »
I didn't see that coming

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #136 on: March 14, 2018, 09:36:18 AM »
The standard of delivery into the box was awful. Albert barely beat the first man with a cross all night.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2018, 09:38:31 AM »
Bruce's reluctance to have any kind of confidence in his full squad has cost us dear all season.  IF we go up and it is a big if, we need a better goalkeeper.
Brian totally agree that we need a more competent, agile and domineering keeper and one who can kick a ball properly however I think it's not about Bruce having more confidence in his squad it's more about being more confident in himself and doing something extra-ordinary. I don't think he is capable of that. He is football manger version of painting by numbers and not an artist.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2018, 10:04:06 AM »
Bruce's reluctance to have any kind of confidence in his full squad has cost us dear all season.  IF we go up and it is a big if, we need a better goalkeeper.
Brian totally agree that we need a more competent, agile and domineering keeper and one who can kick a ball properly however I think it's not about Bruce having more confidence in his squad it's more about being more confident in himself and doing something extra-ordinary. I don't think he is capable of that. He is football manger version of painting by numbers and not an artist.

I'm glad other people are seeing the weaknesses in Johnstone now, a few weeks back i felt like I was swimming against the tide saying that I don't think we should be desperate to keep him if we go up.  I've not seen all of the game (I was out for most of the first half) but for what I caught we looked really nervy at the back, given our record in 2018 how can that happen?

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2018, 10:14:53 AM »
Whilst not giving up on the top two, I think we now need to prioritise stabilising ourselves and ensuring this doesn't have a lasting effect and a) ensure we get into the play offs and b)gear ourselves up to being ready for them.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #140 on: March 14, 2018, 10:23:41 AM »
Very flat. No effort off the ball and on balance changes ought to have been made.

Listless and tired. You could tell with the poor delivery, the time we afforded them and our absence of intensity.

Time to use the squad. Still loads of time left.

QuintonVilla will be right if he criticises the crowd tonight. As shocking as the players with the Sunderland impression.
The crowd were shite from the off. Just beat Wolves 4-1 and the ground was dead apart from Holte Enders In The Sky on loop from about 500 people in the Holte. Everyone else sat on their hands waiting to be entertained like they support Man City. We lost thousands of fans again in the space of 3 days. Our home support is wank for a club of our size and on the run we were on.

It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that people have other things to do: for example, work, other commitments etc etc. Or don't have the money for two home games in three days. Or just can't be bothered with a Tuesday night game at home to QPR. I think in general, people like weekend home matches, and I don't think our home support is 'wank'. 30,000 would say otherwise.
Or like myself and countless others Champion Hurdle day at Cheltenham. I was totally pissed off when this game got rearranged for a Tuesday night. We have ALWAYS played our home night games on Wednesdays. Small Heath on Tuesdays. Does anyone know why this has changed?

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #141 on: March 14, 2018, 10:24:31 AM »
Whilst not giving up on the top two, I think we now need to prioritise stabilising ourselves and ensuring this doesn't have a lasting effect and a) ensure we get into the play offs and b)gear ourselves up to being ready for them.
Yes, good point.  And start practising penalties.  There's no reason why every player can't stay behind for half an hour each training session and practice 10-20 penalties so they start becoming second nature.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #142 on: March 14, 2018, 10:30:01 AM »
Very flat. No effort off the ball and on balance changes ought to have been made.

Listless and tired. You could tell with the poor delivery, the time we afforded them and our absence of intensity.

Time to use the squad. Still loads of time left.

QuintonVilla will be right if he criticises the crowd tonight. As shocking as the players with the Sunderland impression.
The crowd were shite from the off. Just beat Wolves 4-1 and the ground was dead apart from Holte Enders In The Sky on loop from about 500 people in the Holte. Everyone else sat on their hands waiting to be entertained like they support Man City. We lost thousands of fans again in the space of 3 days. Our home support is wank for a club of our size and on the run we were on.

It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that people have other things to do: for example, work, other commitments etc etc. Or don't have the money for two home games in three days. Or just can't be bothered with a Tuesday night game at home to QPR. I think in general, people like weekend home matches, and I don't think our home support is 'wank'. 30,000 would say otherwise.
Or like myself and countless others Champion Hurdle day at Cheltenham. I was totally pissed off when this game got rearranged for a Tuesday night. We have ALWAYS played our home night games on Wednesdays. Small Heath on Tuesdays. Does anyone know why this has changed?

Alex McLeish wanted it.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #143 on: March 14, 2018, 10:33:47 AM »
As disappointing as it was we have to remember we've won 10 of the last 13 and scored 29 goals. Talk of fading away and having no chance is ridiculous. We are more than capable and more likely to go on another run for the remaining 9 games. It's a kick in the pants, a terrible performance and result but let's not over exaggerate it and make a crisis out of it. We'll take a few days off and as Lambert would say, go again. We have the players, we have the form and confidence and like it or not the manager has proven he can get us there or there abouts. Let's all stick together and have the belief that we can do this because our form over the past 30 games suggest we can. Doom and gloom can fuck off for the next 2 months, we've all got to produce and that includes the fans. When we are all together as Wolves found out then we can demolish anyone in this division.

Bolton will feel our lashback, 3-1 Villa.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #144 on: March 14, 2018, 10:43:47 AM »
Bruce's reluctance to have any kind of confidence in his full squad has cost us dear all season.  IF we go up and it is a big if, we need a better goalkeeper.
Brian totally agree that we need a more competent, agile and domineering keeper and one who can kick a ball properly however I think it's not about Bruce having more confidence in his squad it's more about being more confident in himself and doing something extra-ordinary. I don't think he is capable of that. He is football manger version of painting by numbers and not an artist.

I'm glad other people are seeing the weaknesses in Johnstone now, a few weeks back i felt like I was swimming against the tide saying that I don't think we should be desperate to keep him if we go up.  I've not seen all of the game (I was out for most of the first half) but for what I caught we looked really nervy at the back, given our record in 2018 how can that happen?

Did anyone see Cardiff's corners last night in the Brentford game? They seemed to have half their team in the 6 yard area.  Not looking forward to seeing that with Johnson I fear they could have some joy and pick up a cheap goal or two.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #145 on: March 14, 2018, 11:53:41 AM »
As disappointing as it was we have to remember we've won 10 of the last 13 and scored 29 goals. Talk of fading away and having no chance is ridiculous. We are more than capable and more likely to go on another run for the remaining 9 games. It's a kick in the pants, a terrible performance and result but let's not over exaggerate it and make a crisis out of it. We'll take a few days off and as Lambert would say, go again. We have the players, we have the form and confidence and like it or not the manager has proven he can get us there or there abouts. Let's all stick together and have the belief that we can do this because our form over the past 30 games suggest we can. Doom and gloom can fuck off for the next 2 months, we've all got to produce and that includes the fans. When we are all together as Wolves found out then we can demolish anyone in this division.

Bolton will feel our lashback, 3-1 Villa.

Great post.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #146 on: March 14, 2018, 12:05:29 PM »
we've all got to produce and that includes the fans. When we are all together as Wolves found out then we can demolish anyone in this division.
Unless the manager fucks up the team selection and formation.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #147 on: March 14, 2018, 12:06:08 PM »
Bolton are going to get a serious mauling.

But what would be the point if we just then throw the following match away?

Anyway, having time to sleep on it I still haven t got over it. How the fuck could they let this happen? To QP fucking R?

Bolton might get it in the neck now, but that won't undo last night's fuckup.

Soooo disappointed.

My thoughts exactly - I think we should learn from that big time. We need to be able to get over ourselves. Happy to see Bolton get well turned over but if we're going to be jaded then I'd prefer to go 2-0 up and park the bus. Others WILL drop points so we just need to keep going. I am resigned to the playoffs however.

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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #148 on: March 14, 2018, 12:12:16 PM »
I've woke up calm as can be today. I refused to get carried away after Saturday nights match and i refuse to carried away after this loss.

In fact, you could sense something wasn't right from the moment we got to Villa Park last night. The last caller on WM pre match that i heard was a Villa fan giving it the big un claiming we'd batter em, and i sensed a lot of complacency from other supporters beforehand as well. Have these people not supported us for long or what?

You don't EVER take anything for granted with Aston Villa FC. EVER.

Bruce and the team (not one or the other) have to take full blame for the performance, and we fans have to take the blame for the morgue like atmosphere. I know the happy clapper daytrippers that came out for Blues and the Dogheads were nowhere to be seen but did we do our part? Nah.

I felt we'd spent the last few days since Saturday not looking at QPR or wondering how to play against them to best effect at all. It was like we just turned up thinking lets go again. Well, in my humble you really should be ask questions of the opposition before any game and have a plan to counter their threats. We aren't a good enough side to just turn up and play 'our way' against whoever we're playing on any given day. Just my opinion anyway.

I wasn't criticising the team selection before KO so i'm sure as hell not going to post match either.

It was just a HUGE collective off day. I can't think of a single positive to take from the match. Everyone was way below par so it's best just filed away as forgotten as there's zero to be gained from wallowing in the post match misery.

Onwards to Saturday.




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Re: Aston Villa vs QPR Post-Match Thread
« Reply #149 on: March 14, 2018, 12:33:04 PM »
It's a tactic many managers do, MON did it every game in seasons when we were finishing sixth.
MON did it as an offensive ploy Barry Milner Young that could offer something positive, but Jedi?

I'm struggling to think of a time in MONs era when those changes worked either. Moving Milner out of midfield to right back in Carling cup final was one that stands out

 


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