Aston Villa v Sheffield Wednesday Post-Match Thread

[tomd2103]

Your attacking midfielder who had a fine game three days ago is unable to play today due to injury. Do you replace him with:

a. A talented attacking midfielder who has recently recovered from injury and is an ideal like-for-like replacement?

b. A talented young lad from the reserves who scored a hat-trick earlier this week and who knows how to link with your main striker, as he has played numerous games with him at age-limited levels?

c. A striker who has scored one goal since January and has looked something of a misfit, despite costing a very large fee?

Your name is Steve Bruce. What do you do next?

That's what I couldn't really understand.  I thought we would be playing Hogan pushed right up and looking for flick ons from Davis and through balls from the space he created.  Instead, he spent a lot of the game dropping off into deeper positions which he isn't suited to at all.  If he was instructed to do that, then why not go with O'Hare or Grealish from the start who actually play in that position?

Also, his substitutions seem to be becoming a big of a concern.  I still can't quite work out how we ended up with Hogan at left wing against Blues and again it all seemed a bit bizarre.  When Snodgrass went off, he had a few options, but decided to stick Hogan out on the wing and bring O'Hare on just off Davis.  Come out for the second half, Hogan is back up front and O'Hare has been shifted out to the wing.  It just seems all a bit of a panic a and no real thought process going into it.

As much as it's easy to criticise Bruce, it kind of made sense to give Hogan a go today. At home, Kodjia out, two wide men selected and Davis next to him to play off. But Hogan truly was hopeless. Also it's clear that against any reasonable opposition that we can't play a standard 442. So Hogan may soon struggle to make the bench when Kodjia comes back in as it will either be Davis or Kodjia up front.

Today was a strange one, early goal was a cracker but the team looked horribly one paced trying to get back into it. Onomoahs mobility was badly missed. Davis and Adamoah were well held. We badly needed a tactical reshape but were two subs down at that point and options with the likes of Hogan and Whelan left on were limited.

Subs hardly helped matters though at least Grealish looked lively.

Agree with pretty much all of that.  It wasn't the selection of Hogan that bothered me, it was the positions that he took up that did.  He looked like he wad playing in the "number 10" role, which most people who have seen him play would say he is not suited to at all.  Now he might have been told to play that way, or he might have taken it on himself to drop deeper and look for work.  If it was the former then it I was a questionable decision seeing as Grealish and O'Hare were on the bench. 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Wednesday deserve a lot of credit for that performance today. They picked us apart at will first half and like us at Preston, 2nd half they restricted us without having to get out of second gear. Shame they have so many Oscar nominees in their side. Absolutely shameless twats.

[curiousorange]

The simulation in this league, which always used to be held up as a bastion of honest, physical football, is appalling. Shame the officiating is equally woeful.

[olaftab]

What was the issue with  Snodgrass substitution and his attitude when coming off?

[spangley1812]

What was the issue with  Snodgrass substitution and his attitude when coming off?

The BEEB said he was substituted as his rib injury had reoccurred so may be he was just expressing his disappointment @ that

[rim gk]

Not many birds in the Sheffield Wednesday crowd, the nearest to a pair of boobs was the fat bold bloke who watched the whole game with his top off.

How is the seventies? Hi

Ray Graydon running down the wing, then a good old carry on film, great.

Are you trying to be ironic or just an idiot? Are you really sure about your posts?

aren't people allowed to have a laugh? A character? A personality? I think you rather us be undereducated zombies.

[XXVilla]

Not many birds in the Sheffield Wednesday crowd, the nearest to a pair of boobs was the fat bold bloke who watched the whole game with his top off.

How is the seventies? Hi

Ray Graydon running down the wing, then a good old carry on film, great.

Are you trying to be ironic or just an idiot? Are you really sure about your posts?

aren't people allowed to have a laugh? A character? A personality? I think you rather us be undereducated zombies.

*Bald. Unless he was very forward.

[PeterWithe]

What was the issue with  Snodgrass substitution and his attitude when coming off?

He didn’t look injured and if not, I thought the change could have waited a few minutes until half time.

[Malandro]

Not many birds in the Sheffield Wednesday crowd, the nearest to a pair of boobs was the fat bold bloke who watched the whole game with his top off.

How is the seventies? Hi

Ray Graydon running down the wing, then a good old carry on film, great.

Are you trying to be ironic or just an idiot? Are you really sure about your posts?

aren't people allowed to have a laugh? A character? A personality? I think you rather us be undereducated zombies.

That is very unfair, Jameson has been a big advocate for equality in education for zombies.

[oldhill_avfc]

Clueless absolutely clueless, from the Manager to the players. Why oh why oh why change a winning formation. Handed the freedom of Villa Park to the Wednesday midfield by playing 4-4-2. Oh and that right back had Adomah in his pocket, I’d imagine Albert has only just got out! Dear oh dear.

We’ve been moaning at him to stop playing one up front at home.  When he doesn’t he gets criticised.  We missed Josh’s energy today and I doubt he would’ve changed it if it hadn’t been for his injury.  Fcukin injuries piss me off.

Playing two up front leaves us far too weak in central midfield, a weakness that the better sides in the division will exploit and have done so already.

Its not playing with 2 wide players who both hug the touchline that leaves us weak in the middle.

Bruce eventually spotted it yesterday but totally undermined the decision by the way he then messed around with Hogan and O'Hare.   Arguably (the appalling)  adomah should have the been the one to go off as well.

The timing wasn't great either.  He should have done it 10 minutes earlier or left out until half time.

[tomd2103]

What was the issue with  Snodgrass substitution and his attitude when coming off?

He didn’t look injured and if not, I thought the change could have waited a few minutes until half time.

He was stood with hands on knees and obviously in pain not long before he was taken off. 

[in exile]

Samba, Elphick or Richards...we're f****d

[Clampy]

What was the issue with  Snodgrass substitution and his attitude when coming off?

He didn’t look injured and if not, I thought the change could have waited a few minutes until half time.

He was stood with hands on knees and obviously in pain not long before he was taken off. 

I didn't think he looked injured at the time either purely because he seemed surprised to be subbed so I must have missed what you saw.

[tomd2103]

What was the issue with  Snodgrass substitution and his attitude when coming off?

He didn’t look injured and if not, I thought the change could have waited a few minutes until half time.

He was stood with hands on knees and obviously in pain not long before he was taken off. 

I didn't think he looked injured at the time either purely because he seemed surprised to be subbed so I must have missed what you saw.

I only saw it because someone next to me pointed it out, as the ball was on the other side of the field. 

[tomd2103]

Clueless absolutely clueless, from the Manager to the players. Why oh why oh why change a winning formation. Handed the freedom of Villa Park to the Wednesday midfield by playing 4-4-2. Oh and that right back had Adomah in his pocket, I’d imagine Albert has only just got out! Dear oh dear.

We’ve been moaning at him to stop playing one up front at home.  When he doesn’t he gets criticised.  We missed Josh’s energy today and I doubt he would’ve changed it if it hadn’t been for his injury.  Fcukin injuries piss me off.

Playing two up front leaves us far too weak in central midfield, a weakness that the better sides in the division will exploit and have done so already.

Its not playing with 2 wide players who both hug the touchline that leaves us weak in the middle.

Bruce eventually spotted it yesterday but totally undermined the decision by the way he then messed around with Hogan and O'Hare.   Arguably (the appalling)  adomah should have the been the one to go off as well.

The timing wasn't great either.  He should have done it 10 minutes earlier or left out until half time.

I'm sorry mate, but I'm not sure about that one.  Playing two 'touchline hugging' wingers will surely only leave us more exposed in the middle?