Jeeeeesus! Politics, class, race, sexual orientation and religion...just a few things that shouldn't even be issues that cause problems on or around a football pitch.
Born into poverty in Saltley. Now live in Nechells.(I meant to tag this onto the post above) lol
Quote from: standing for rights on October 17, 2017, 01:10:45 PMQuote from: ktvillan on October 17, 2017, 12:44:41 PMYes - I blame Thatcher. can't blame one individual for the loss of working class identity at football, the tories played their part people like Tracy crouch. Labour the worst and when the identity was destroyed the most. At least under thatcher we had maggies boot boys and war which was in Great Britains interest. Blimey. I originated as working class, and been fortunate to move up to middle class, (certainly in terms of salary), but im struggling to understand any of this last post
Quote from: ktvillan on October 17, 2017, 12:44:41 PMYes - I blame Thatcher. can't blame one individual for the loss of working class identity at football, the tories played their part people like Tracy crouch. Labour the worst and when the identity was destroyed the most. At least under thatcher we had maggies boot boys and war which was in Great Britains interest.
Yes - I blame Thatcher.
Quote from: MoetVillan on October 17, 2017, 01:58:06 PMQuote from: standing for rights on October 17, 2017, 01:10:45 PMQuote from: ktvillan on October 17, 2017, 12:44:41 PMYes - I blame Thatcher. can't blame one individual for the loss of working class identity at football, the tories played their part people like Tracy crouch. Labour the worst and when the identity was destroyed the most. At least under thatcher we had maggies boot boys and war which was in Great Britains interest. Blimey. I originated as working class, and been fortunate to move up to middle class, (certainly in terms of salary), but im struggling to understand any of this last postWhat do you class as a middle class salary?
Well I tell you one thing that has changed dramatically in the last 30 years and that's music gigs. Not just the prices they charge but the people who go. Back in the day people went to gigs to see a band they liked these days I seem to see so many people at them who aren't really interested in the band they are just there so that they could say they went. Particularly true of the O2 with there corporate 'fans ' there. Yes I know...off on a tangent
Quote from: clash city rocker on October 17, 2017, 06:19:37 PMWell I tell you one thing that has changed dramatically in the last 30 years and that's music gigs. Not just the prices they charge but the people who go. Back in the day people went to gigs to see a band they liked these days I seem to see so many people at them who aren't really interested in the band they are just there so that they could say they went. Particularly true of the O2 with there corporate 'fans ' there. Yes I know...off on a tangentWould be great if venues would ban all mobile phones at gigs.