Aston Villa v Middlesbrough League Cup Exit Thread

[Legion]

It would mean a bigger crowd and more income. I think Liverpool lost, though.

[PeterWithesShin]

We'd normally, rightly, scoff about the 'bigger crowd' stuff, but normally we aren't a division 2 side fecked by FFP. So half a million plus would be more than a tad handy.

[paul_e]

We'd normally, rightly, scoff about the 'bigger crowd' stuff, but normally we aren't a division 2 side fecked by FFP. So half a million plus would be more than a tad handy.

Pays the wages for Terry for a couple of months.

[Ads]

Of course we're not, but extra prize money for winning last night, potential for being on TV and say an approx 30K crowd if we drew one of the 'big' clubs at home is probably worth around half a million. Not to be sneezed at when FFP is weighing you down.

If anything encapsulates the "how far have we sunk" comment that people joke about, then its a bleeding comment like the one I quoted. We're not some League 2 shite looking for a fucking pay day.

Christ on the Cross.

[Ads]

We'd normally, rightly, scoff about the 'bigger crowd' stuff, but normally we aren't a division 2 side fecked by FFP. So half a million plus would be more than a tad handy.

Maybe the club could have produced some half and half scarves as well.

Coor blimey I cannot believe I missed out on a big club like Manchester United or Liverpool or Chelsea coming to Villa Park with all their amazing players. Wowzers, I'd have had my face painted and worn a foam hand too. I'd have had to have bought an SLR so I could have taken a picture everytime a Premier League great from such a big club came to take a corner near the Holte End.

We could have had a commemorative match day programme too.

It wouldn't have mattered about the result either, what an honour it would have been.

Just think, I could tell my children I was there.

[The Edge]

I know, from the pre-match comments yesterday, that some of you are content that we are out of the cup, and can concentrate on the league, but I'm still gutted this morning.

I spent 25% of my weekly take home pay to travel 200+ miles there and back, and what I saw was a very poor attempt at trying to win a home cup match. If that's the way this club intends to go with the cups - as it seems to make no difference which division we are in or what squad we have - then 11,000 people turning up is more than they deserve.

11 changes is a complete piss take, especially when you decide to have nothing of any quality on the bench. If the club intend to do that they should charge everyone what they charge fans for going to see the 'reserves'. People like me, who have to spend on travel, will probably not bother, but they might get a lot more locals and their children.

However poor we were as a first team, I always thought we would try to win things and do our best. Yes, I know "it's modern football", but copying 'the big clubs' in pretending we can pick and chose which games we try to win has not done us any good at all, from what I can see.

These days we're not only a very poor side, we're doing things that make me dislike the club. Something I, naively perhaps, thought would never happen.

It seems as though we were, yet again, going for the 'all out league assault, or bust' approach. We know how that normally turns out.

Oh well. I can do an extra night shift to claw back the money I threw down the drain last night, and promise myself not to make the same mistake in the FA Cup come January.

Rant over.

I can walk to the ground from where I live and I really wish I hadn't bothered to last night. It was utterly shite and we got the result we deserved. Or rather the result Steve Bruce deserved for his shambolic and mind numbing  team selections which are too numerous for me to be bothered to go over. You deserve a medal for your efforts my friend.

[PeterWithesShin]

We are currently a division 2 club that has little money to spend due to FFP whether you like it or not. Although i'm curious what business in the world treats a potential half a million as though it's nothing. Still, we'll brass it eh Danny.

[Surrey Villain]

A win last night would have continued confidence all round and we would be looking forward to a good home draw in the next round against a team like Liverpool or Man Utd which would mean a bigger crowd and thus more income for the club. Bruce threw all that away last night and most of us are in despair again. A win on Saturday of course and all this will be forgotten but I suspect not for long as he continues to have no idea how to pick a good formation from the players at his disposal. His tactics are bleak and he finds it impossible to adjust to injuries and changes in tactics by the opposition. At least he hasn't got Bacuna to put first on his teamsheet every time. 

I take it you are kidding with that comment?

Why should I be kidding?

[Villa75]

From what I have been watching lately, we're far closer to becoming like Walsall than any PL club.

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We are currently a division 2 club that has little money to spend due to FFP whether you like it or not. Although i'm curious what business in the world treats a potential half a million as though it's nothing. Still, we'll brass it eh Danny.

Did you see the side we put out? The club gave not a single fuck.

Fingers crossed we can get a big club in the FA Cup. Maybe the BBC can film us watching the draw so we can celebrate getting a Premier League side down here. It would be lovely to see the big stars down here. Maybe we could build a temporary stand so we can pack some more people in?

[Ads]

A win last night would have continued confidence all round and we would be looking forward to a good home draw in the next round against a team like Liverpool or Man Utd which would mean a bigger crowd and thus more income for the club. Bruce threw all that away last night and most of us are in despair again. A win on Saturday of course and all this will be forgotten but I suspect not for long as he continues to have no idea how to pick a good formation from the players at his disposal. His tactics are bleak and he finds it impossible to adjust to injuries and changes in tactics by the opposition. At least he hasn't got Bacuna to put first on his teamsheet every time. 

I take it you are kidding with that comment?

Why should I be kidding?

As you support Aston fucking Villa.

[Surrey Villain]

A win last night would have continued confidence all round and we would be looking forward to a good home draw in the next round against a team like Liverpool or Man Utd which would mean a bigger crowd and thus more income for the club. Bruce threw all that away last night and most of us are in despair again. A win on Saturday of course and all this will be forgotten but I suspect not for long as he continues to have no idea how to pick a good formation from the players at his disposal. His tactics are bleak and he finds it impossible to adjust to injuries and changes in tactics by the opposition. At least he hasn't got Bacuna to put first on his teamsheet every time. 

I take it you are kidding with that comment?

Why should I be kidding?

As you support Aston fucking Villa.

and the relevance of that comment is......?

[PeterWithesShin]

We may still be Aston Villa, but we're currently in the bottom half of division 2, spent the summer signing cheap or free players as we can't spend much money and just pulled 11k for the first time in over a quarter of a century.
It's in part thinking that just being Aston Villa is enough that's led us to this shite situation that we're struggling to get ourselves out of. Just as the same thinking led to the mess we found ourselves back in the late 60s. And it was the cup runs as a lower league side in 70/71 and 74/75 that helped us achieve what we did in 77-83. If we didn't have that cup run in 74/75 then there's a decent chance we wouldn't have signed at least 1 of Mortimer or Gray. If we don't sign one of those there may well have been no '77 and/or 80-82. 

I very much doubt any of us like the reality of where we are at the moment, doesn't mean we can just ignore it either.

[Ads]

A win last night would have continued confidence all round and we would be looking forward to a good home draw in the next round against a team like Liverpool or Man Utd which would mean a bigger crowd and thus more income for the club. Bruce threw all that away last night and most of us are in despair again. A win on Saturday of course and all this will be forgotten but I suspect not for long as he continues to have no idea how to pick a good formation from the players at his disposal. His tactics are bleak and he finds it impossible to adjust to injuries and changes in tactics by the opposition. At least he hasn't got Bacuna to put first on his teamsheet every time. 

I take it you are kidding with that comment?

Why should I be kidding?

As you support Aston fucking Villa.

and the relevance of that comment is......?

You appear to have forgotten.

[Surrey Villain]

We may still be Aston Villa, but we're currently in the bottom half of division 2, spent the summer signing cheap or free players as we can't spend much money and just pulled 11k for the first time in over a quarter of a century.
It's in part thinking that just being Aston Villa is enough that's led us to this shite situation that we're struggling to get ourselves out of. Just as the same thinking led to the mess we found ourselves back in the late 60s. And it was the cup runs as a lower league side in 70/71 and 74/75 that helped us achieve what we did in 77-83. If we didn't have that cup run in 74/75 then there's a decent chance we wouldn't have signed at least 1 of Mortimer or Gray. If we don't sign one of those there may well have been no '77 and/or 80-82. 

I very much doubt any of us like the reality of where we are at the moment, doesn't mean we can just ignore it either.

We may still be Aston Villa, but we're currently in the bottom half of division 2, spent the summer signing cheap or free players as we can't spend much money and just pulled 11k for the first time in over a quarter of a century.
It's in part thinking that just being Aston Villa is enough that's led us to this shite situation that we're struggling to get ourselves out of. Just as the same thinking led to the mess we found ourselves back in the late 60s. And it was the cup runs as a lower league side in 70/71 and 74/75 that helped us achieve what we did in 77-83. If we didn't have that cup run in 74/75 then there's a decent chance we wouldn't have signed at least 1 of Mortimer or Gray. If we don't sign one of those there may well have been no '77 and/or 80-82. 

I very much doubt any of us like the reality of where we are at the moment, doesn't mean we can just ignore it either.

Well said. I wonder if Ads will tear you apart!  Just think we could have drawn Spurs at Wembley in the last 16 with a win last night. No doubt more than 11k would have gone to that and, as you say, it could have been the springboard we needed.