Aston Villa v Hull City post match thread.

[SoccerHQ]

Despite the pre match forecast, was anyone really surprised by the result ?
As much as I want it to work, I can not see it happening with Bruce. dinosaur manager.
 
We are Aston Villa. we go again.

I actually said 1-1 in the pre match thread. (or 2-2 but a draw certainly).

Most disappointing thing for me is we got the early goal to set things and the crowd down so there was an opportunity to take the shakles off and win 2/3-0 and send a statement to the rest of the division we mean business.

We missed a few more chances and then had enough of attacking and just retreated back into own half and so Hull didn't have to step it up much to get the equalizer.

I gave SB pretty much a free pass last season based on our position when he arrived. He really has little excuse this season with the squad he's assembled but looks like he's coaching the new boys into his reactive and restrictive game mentality.

[ChicagoLion]

The frustrating thing is kidding yourself all summer that they've had time to gel and find a game plan and that we will be good only to be smacked in the face with the truth first game that we are almost a carbon copy of last seasons team. With some older players.

They need a pre season.
Bruce needs to bring his own players in.
He needs to establish a pet tern of play.
Now it's early in the season.we could have scored more.
The problem is that we can keep making excuses for Bruce until they run out, which they will and it will be too late.

[PeterWithesShin]

Can someone tell me a game last season that matched the first 45 minutes today?

There are various flaws I identified today. But I honestly think the biggest threat is the moaning of a proportion of our fans

Preston at home. We didn't win that one either. Huddersfield. We didn't win that one either. Brighton away, we etc etc. Forest at home etc etc.

[GarTomas]

Gabby apart from his goal didn't do much for me. You can skate Hogan but no service and he will look poor.

Bacuna starting a strange one for me. Whelan looked worse 2nd half as the movement up front ahead of him seemed to reduce; got back into the game again when Green and Onomah came on as it gave him options.

Ultimately game should go been dead and buried after 30 mins and 1-0 is always a dangerous score.

[Matt Collins]

the problem is Matt he's had 40 games now and apart from a good 25 mins in a couple of them not one of them has been any good even the ones we managed to win

I mean you can defend him all you like but that's just the plain truth of the matter

The highlights will be available on sky sports later

I presume they'll show about 7 villa chances and two for hull

Not at all saying I have no misgivings. But for me that was better than last season despite our three most potent attacking talents from last season not being available.

[four fornicholl]

Can someone tell me a game last season that matched the first 45 minutes today?

There are various flaws I identified today. But I honestly think the biggest threat is the moaning of a proportion of our fans

Preston at home. We didn't win that one either. Huddersfield. We didn't win that one either. Brighton away, we etc etc. Forest at home etc etc.

We should never have lost today, based on the 1st half, what the FUCK happened?

[GarTomas]

Can someone tell me a game last season that matched the first 45 minutes today?

There are various flaws I identified today. But I honestly think the biggest threat is the moaning of a proportion of our fans

Preston at home. We didn't win that one either. Huddersfield. We didn't win that one either. Brighton away, we etc etc. Forest at home etc etc.

We should never have lost today, based on the 1st half, what the FUCK happened?

We didn't lose did we?

[PeterWithesShin]

A big positive is Onoma and Green looking decent. Bacuna out and Onomah in next game hopefully.

[London Villan]

Last minute of a cup match, samba yes. First game following a full pre season... clueless. And i don't want Bruce gone.

[Villatillidie25]

5 pages and it's pretty polarising views on today. Is it that some expect too much from a championship side. Is it that some have accepted the past 5 or so years of garbage and have lowered their expectations beyond recognition?
Overall I thought we were decent for 40 minutes, should have been 2 up easily. Hogan and Lansbury caused them problems and Elmo had enough hot moments to worry them. Even gabby looked a threat.
Then we go really sloppy for 5 minutes and continue that into the second half for 30 minutes. I think Whelan will be a really good signing, although slightly off the pace today, but he needs someone alongside him who is better than bacuna and more mobile than jedinak. If we don't then we won't have anyone in the team who can wrestle games back as they start to slip.
Final 20 minutes were better and I thought green (miss aside) and Onomah looked decent enough and offered a bit more pace and energy.
Overall, we definitely should have won but 35 minutes switching off and not taking the very clear chances we did create and we blew it. We weren't going to win or lose the league today so we shouldn't go over board

[Villatillidie25]

Last minute of a cup match, samba yes. First game following a full pre season... clueless. And i don't want Bruce gone.

If it's ok for last minute of a cup match why isn't it ok for a league game? You're trying to win both right?

[PeterWithesShin]

Another positive is we showed in the first 25 what we're capable of, now we need to do it for a lot more than 25 mins and also make the most of it when we're so on top

[Matt Collins]

A big positive is Onoma and Green looking decent. Bacuna out and Onomah in next game hopefully.

Green was v good. Didn't think Onomah was

[QuintonVilla]

Score one and then do nothing for the rest of the game. Nothing has changed, even when we do manage to win you just know it will be boring as feck to watch. He's holding us back with his 'style' of play and philosophy and I think he'll be gone by October/November.

Hull are piss poor. The teams at the top will beat them comfortably this season.

[curiousorange]

Shite. I hate Steve Bruce.