The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths

[Clampy]

Sorry, but I can't grasp the mechanics of it. Are people suggesting that we've only won the games that we'd decided beforehand we were going to win, or one that we now had to win because we fucked up by not winning a previous one that we'd meant to, and that when we'd lost through being shit, we'd been shit on purpose because those points didn't matter?

I feel like I'm arguing with my nan about the wrestling on World Of Sport.

I think the suggestion is that Bruce decided at the start of the season that 87 points would be enough for us to go up, so as long as we were on course for that then we'd be Ok in the end. I have an issue with this (if it's true) because three teams have reached beyond that total. We're still on course to hit it and we'll finish fourth.

If it's true, would you have had an issue with it had he set a target of 87 points and we finished second?

Think about what you've just written.

No, you answer the question.

[Sexual Ealing]

Where did this suggestion come from?

One of his post-match interviews. He didn't say what the target was, but he said that he'd set a target and if we reach that, and other teams do even better, you shake them by the hand and say 'well done'.

[Clampy]

Where did this suggestion come from?

One of his post-match interviews. He didn't say what the target was, but he said that he'd set a target and if we reach that, and other teams do even better, you shake them by the hand and say 'well done'.

So you don't know what target he set but you're ridiculing it anyway?

[PeterWithesShin]

So you don't know what the target is, if we've reached it or if anyone else has besides Wolves (as you'd have to assume they passed it)?

[Sexual Ealing]

Sorry, but I can't grasp the mechanics of it. Are people suggesting that we've only won the games that we'd decided beforehand we were going to win, or one that we now had to win because we fucked up by not winning a previous one that we'd meant to, and that when we'd lost through being shit, we'd been shit on purpose because those points didn't matter?

I feel like I'm arguing with my nan about the wrestling on World Of Sport.

I think the suggestion is that Bruce decided at the start of the season that 87 points would be enough for us to go up, so as long as we were on course for that then we'd be Ok in the end. I have an issue with this (if it's true) because three teams have reached beyond that total. We're still on course to hit it and we'll finish fourth.

If it's true, would you have had an issue with it had he set a target of 87 points and we finished second?

Think about what you've just written.

No, you answer the question.

I would've been happy if we were on course to hit it, and there was no sign of THREE other teams who were doing better than us, who looked likely to do better than it.

[Sexual Ealing]

So you don't know what the target is, if we've reached it or if anyone else has besides Wolves (as you'd have to assume they passed it)?

Somebody on here mentioned 87 points. I was hoping they could repeat it to give some context because (if it is true) I find it to be totally mental.

[dave.woodhall]

Where did this suggestion come from?

One of his post-match interviews. He didn't say what the target was, but he said that he'd set a target and if we reach that, and other teams do even better, you shake them by the hand and say 'well done'.

Based on that it hardly seems a hard and fast rule that he's lived the entire season by. In fact it doesn't seem anything except yet another tedious stick to beat Steve Bruce with. 

[PeterWithesShin]

So they've guessed and none of us know if we or anyone has reached it but you're giving him stick for it? I'm not exactly known as a Bruce fan and even i think that's harsh on him.

[Clampy]

I'm laughing at this. It's so utterly ridiculous.

[Sexual Ealing]

Where did this suggestion come from?

One of his post-match interviews. He didn't say what the target was, but he said that he'd set a target and if we reach that, and other teams do even better, you shake them by the hand and say 'well done'.

So you don't know what target he set but you're ridiculing it anyway?

Oh my fucking God, Clamply. I'm asking a question, that's all. I'm also moaning because it strikes me that, despite sounding totally mental, it's something that could be true. I'm just asking though.

I'm sure that if Steve Bruce ever needs an online minder somebody at Cambridge Analytica has got your details.

[Clampy]

Where did this suggestion come from?

One of his post-match interviews. He didn't say what the target was, but he said that he'd set a target and if we reach that, and other teams do even better, you shake them by the hand and say 'well done'.

So you don't know what target he set but you're ridiculing it anyway?

Oh my fucking God, Clamply. I'm asking a question, that's all. I'm also moaning because it strikes me that, despite sounding totally mental, it's something that could be true. I'm just asking though.

I'm sure that if Steve Bruce ever needs an online minder somebody at Cambridge Analytica has got your details.

I'm not the only one calling you out on this by the way.

[PeterWithesShin]

I reckon even John would think it's harsh on Bruce, that's how harsh it is.

[Sexual Ealing]

I reckon even John would think it's harsh on Bruce, that's how harsh it is.

It's harsh if I've made it up (and I might have, but I don't think so). I was really just asking (and adding some personal spin in advance of the fact so my sincere apologies to SB for that). I'm sure I've seen this discussed beyond my own bitter prejudice, but I'll leave it there for now.

[Richard E]

If we’re still in the Championship at 8 pm on 26th May let’s worry about it then.

[PeterWithesShin]

He's mentioned targets but as far as I can tell the 87 points is just a random number picked. Personally, I'd have thought if anyone was to say the points they wanted to aim for automatic promotion would be more likely to be 90-92. If you hit 90 and don't finish top 2 then you would have to doff your cap to 2 other clubs.