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Offline Ads

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1965 on: April 04, 2018, 08:05:25 AM »
You'd have to hope Wolves beat Cardiff and we win our next two. If we then beat Leeds on the Friday we'd actually be above them, so it's a different pressure on their Norwich game off the back of 2 defeats. Fulham of course may also be above them too. It's a slim chance and out of our hands. Let's try and win all 6 we have left.

As for the Play Offs, 11 points is a 4 game turn around with 6 to go I think we're likely 1 win away from mathematical certainty as I don't think 6th will get more than 75 points.

There's quite a chase on for 6th looking at the table.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1966 on: April 04, 2018, 08:12:43 AM »
Derby and Middlesbrough have tough run-ins as well.

5th and 6th spots in the league will be very interesting.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1967 on: April 04, 2018, 09:12:09 AM »
Just keep winning and who knows? Keep the focus.

Leave the others to worry about screwing up.

2nd is doubtful, but we should aim to enter the play-offs with a swagger.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1968 on: April 04, 2018, 09:20:09 AM »
We need to get some form going into the play offs it's about winning now anyway we can I would like us to be on a winning run going into them because you look at the other contenders they are hitting good form so we need to match or better them.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1969 on: April 04, 2018, 09:24:01 AM »
Of the teams chasing the play offs, who are we all hoping get in there? For me it would be Bristol City. They've gone right off the boil and were one of the worst teams at VP this season.
I wouldn't fancy Millwall, they're a tough nut to crack and would have nothing to lose as massive underdogs.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1970 on: April 04, 2018, 09:33:11 AM »
If it has to be the play offs, Bristol City would be cool with Cardiff in the final.

With the play offs practically guaranteed, we have nothing to lose by going for all out attack in the remaining six fixtures and see if we can rattle the teams above us.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1971 on: April 04, 2018, 09:56:39 AM »
Of the teams chasing the play offs, who are we all hoping get in there? For me it would be Bristol City. They've gone right off the boil and were one of the worst teams at VP this season.
I wouldn't fancy Millwall, they're a tough nut to crack and would have nothing to lose as massive underdogs.

Fulham to get second. Cardiff to get Millwall in the semis and lose. We beat Derby over 2 legs and meet Milwall in the final

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1972 on: April 04, 2018, 10:02:42 AM »
I think Cardiff will beat Wolves

So you're saying we'll go up as Champions?

Nothing would surprise me with Villa. I sometimes feel we could nick 2nd, but the feeling evaporates quite quickly. Let's just win every remaining game and see.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1973 on: April 04, 2018, 10:23:51 AM »
Brucey said his boys have a points target of 87 and he feels any team who gets above that is deserved in promotion.

This there or thereabouts seems to be promotion or just outside automatic  promotion.

Now 4 wins and 2 draws are needed to get this 14 points to 87. Brucey target.

In aiming for wins Cardiff match is a must win.
(they all are!) but for this points total 14 more points needed from these fixtures.

Norwich
Cardiff
Leeds
Ipswich
Derby
Millwall

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1974 on: April 04, 2018, 10:41:04 AM »
I'll have some of what Tom and QV are drinking!

We've absolutely no chance of automatic from here.

Of course we have a chance. Wolves still need 3 points on Friday night against Cardiff. It's not beyond the realms of fantasy that they will get them. We win against Norwich and then Cardiff on Tuesday and we're a point behind.

I wouldn't put my mortgage on it admittedly but to say there is no chance is ridiculous.

So you think Cardiff, the team that hasn't lost a league game in over three months, is going to lose at least three of their remaining seven?

And 'at least' relies on us winning all six of ours which would be incredible in itself.

There is no chance. The key for us now is to get to the play offs without any injuries and I'm reasonable form.

I think there is a CHANCE that Cardiff can lose their next 2. There is a CHANCE we can win our next 2. That would put us 1 point behind them. They would then suddelny come under enormous pressure.There would then be a CHANCE that we could finish above them.

The probability is that we won't but there is a CHANCE.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1975 on: April 04, 2018, 11:09:02 AM »
Score board pressure is a potential factor.

If we win our next three and Cardiff lose against Wolves, then there is a pressure on their game a week Saturday at Norwich, a point behind us [and maybe Fulham too] that wasn't there before.

Who knows. They'll need to only win 3 of their last 7 and maybe a couple of defeats in a few days and suddenly being behind the game points wise, despite the game in hand, will shatter confidence.


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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1976 on: April 04, 2018, 11:34:55 AM »
Of the teams chasing the play offs, who are we all hoping get in there? For me it would be Bristol City. They've gone right off the boil and were one of the worst teams at VP this season.
I wouldn't fancy Millwall, they're a tough nut to crack and would have nothing to lose as massive underdogs.

I'd be fine with Derby. They've been terrible last few months.

I think we could take Boro over two legs although those would be two tight games given the managers involved.

Think those two are most likely for 5th, maybe Sheffield United. They played pretty well against us in both games so shouldn't be underestimated.

Brentford could yet sneak in, we struggle badly against their style so they'd be a dangerous team.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1977 on: April 04, 2018, 11:36:53 AM »
In order to get second

We need to win all six
We need Fulham to draw a couple of away games
We need Cardiff to collapse with only 10 points from there last 7 games.

It’s a straw and I’m clutching it.


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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1978 on: April 04, 2018, 11:39:59 AM »
I'm more of a scenario let Cardiff collapse but let Fulham get second.

I don't want to play Fulham at any stage in the play offs as I have the opinion they'd beat us as they're a bloomin good team at this level.

Warnock may be many things but even he'd struggle to gee Cardiff up for the play offs if they blow second now so that would be good news for us I'd suspect.

If we finish 4th and get through the semi we'd be playing the sixth place team in the final I reckon in that scenario.

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Re: The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths
« Reply #1979 on: April 04, 2018, 11:40:03 AM »
Of the teams chasing the play offs, who are we all hoping get in there? For me it would be Bristol City. They've gone right off the boil and were one of the worst teams at VP this season.
I wouldn't fancy Millwall, they're a tough nut to crack and would have nothing to lose as massive underdogs.

I'd be fine with Derby. They've been terrible last few months.

I think we could take Boro over two legs although those would be two tight games given the managers involved.

Think those two are most likely for 5th, maybe Sheffield United. They played pretty well against us in both games so shouldn't be underestimated.

Brentford could yet sneak in, we struggle badly against their style so they'd be a dangerous team.

Agreed. I would actually fear Brentford and Fulham the most of all potential opposition. It would also be painful if we were to get knocked out by Brentford and see them go up, as Dean Smith would be my number 1 choice for manager next season if we failed in the play-offs.

 


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