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Offline paul_e

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #195 on: July 19, 2017, 06:56:39 PM »
The thing is finishing 13th is only part of the story, not being able to reliably get shots on goal, keep possession in midfield, deliver decent set pieces or get anyone within 30 yards of our strikers are the problems that people are talking about and are still seeing this summer, can we blame those on Lerner still, or RDM?

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #196 on: July 19, 2017, 06:57:58 PM »
A year ago I doubt many of us would have been satisfied with 13th, shit football, 15 wins and one of the lowest goal scorers in the division. So I don't see how a year on it's now a massive improvement.

A year ago we didn't believe we'd crumble like a soggy wheatabix at places like Bristol City after conceding a goal.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #197 on: July 19, 2017, 06:59:41 PM »
I'm not writing them off, i've said that I think we have a squad that should be top 2. It's the manager i'm worried about. Same as I believe we had a squad that should have been better than 13th last season. The managers were we had, imo, the problem last season not the squad we had.

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #198 on: July 19, 2017, 07:00:05 PM »
So I can't talk about signing most of the league's top scorers because it doesn't suit your point of view?

So buying RM with huge personal issues, and an injury prone Hogan in January means we should have pissed the league last season?


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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #199 on: July 19, 2017, 07:02:12 PM »
A year ago I doubt many of us would have been satisfied with 13th, shit football, 15 wins and one of the lowest goal scorers in the division. So I don't see how a year on it's now a massive improvement.

A year ago we didn't believe we'd crumble like a soggy wheatabix at places like Bristol City after conceding a goal.

but you're constantly pleading patience for someone who lost all but 2 games that we went behind in (out of about 15), so where's the significant improvement?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #200 on: July 19, 2017, 07:02:35 PM »
So I can't talk about signing most of the league's top scorers because it doesn't suit your point of view?

So buying RM with huge personal issues, and an injury prone Hogan in January means we should have pissed the league last season?


No because we had, and bought, a lot of other players as well. I also haven't said we should have pissed the league, you do like making things up don't you. I have however said that imo the squad massively underperformed last season and that I believe that is because of the managers and coaches.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #201 on: July 19, 2017, 07:02:55 PM »
So I can't talk about signing most of the league's top scorers because it doesn't suit your point of view?

So buying RM with huge personal issues, and an injury prone Hogan in January means we should have pissed the league last season?


but in Bruce we trust right?

Offline four fornicholl

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #202 on: July 19, 2017, 07:07:14 PM »
Live streaming of friendlies has kicked up a shitstorm as far as I'm concerned, I've been to about four in nearly forty years.
Not a Bruce man myself, but lets wait for the first 3 or 4 games before a balanced opinion is voiced.

Offline Ads

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #203 on: July 19, 2017, 07:10:21 PM »
A year ago I doubt many of us would have been satisfied with 13th, shit football, 15 wins and one of the lowest goal scorers in the division. So I don't see how a year on it's now a massive improvement.

A year ago we didn't believe we'd crumble like a soggy wheatabix at places like Bristol City after conceding a goal.

but you're constantly pleading patience for someone who lost all but 2 games that we went behind in (out of about 15), so where's the significant improvement?

15 wins in 36 versus 14 in 86 as a match going fan is huge.

Offline AV5nobs

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #204 on: July 19, 2017, 07:20:49 PM »
Live streaming of friendlies has kicked up a shitstorm as far as I'm concerned, I've been to about four in nearly forty years.
Not a Bruce man myself, but lets wait for the first 3 or 4 games before a balanced opinion is voiced.

Absolutely nailed on comment mate.

I've been to Pre season games pre Big Ron, Little, Gregory and so forth and been so drunk I couldn't remember anything, all seasons have surprised me at some point, but this pre season for all to see online is definitely dangerous for mass opinions.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #205 on: July 19, 2017, 07:21:35 PM »
A year ago I doubt many of us would have been satisfied with 13th, shit football, 15 wins and one of the lowest goal scorers in the division. So I don't see how a year on it's now a massive improvement.

A year ago we didn't believe we'd crumble like a soggy wheatabix at places like Bristol City after conceding a goal.

but you're constantly pleading patience for someone who lost all but 2 games that we went behind in (out of about 15), so where's the significant improvement?

15 wins in 36 versus 14 in 86 as a match going fan is huge.

Yeah, and the quality of the opposition has no bearing on it.  The key thing is if you extend 15 in 36 out to 46 games it gives you about 19 and to be reliably into the playoffs we need more like 23-24 so it's not enough.

Offline AV5nobs

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #206 on: July 19, 2017, 07:24:32 PM »
Not enough when you take over in October with someone else's squad after 3rd worst Prem squad ever?

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #207 on: July 19, 2017, 07:27:34 PM »
I have never known such hullabaloo over friendlies before.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #208 on: July 19, 2017, 07:29:27 PM »
Jack grealish is our third most experienced player. The churn has been incredible. It's going to take time. We've had a whole three weeks of pre season

There are still quite a few worrying signs, but the histrionics about a couple of friendlies is a bit ridiculous

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Re: Season expectations 2017-18
« Reply #209 on: July 19, 2017, 07:31:27 PM »
So is getting so worked up about a few people on the internet having an opinion.

 


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