Some of the 'Rules'http://www.firstpost.com/sports/tour-de-france-2017-from-not-racing-during-last-stage-to-forming-groupetto-here-are-some-uncommon-rules-3804559.html
Warren Barguil smashed the ascent record of the Izoard. 38:15sFaster than Schleck in '11 40:40sFaster than addicts Di Luca and Ricco in '07 40:14sFaster than Armstrong and dope hounds in '00 41:30sFaster than Pantani in the giro of '00 40:54sNot just slightly faster, he would have put minutes in to the lot of them.
Quote from: four fornicholl on July 16, 2017, 04:21:35 PMSuperhuman effort from Froome, You have to wonder.Froome has been tested possibly more than any other cyclist over the past four years. He is set up to peak for a specific three weeks in the year and also has the support of very strong team mates. Just a very very good athlete.
Superhuman effort from Froome, You have to wonder.
I read something the other day questioning the "value" of the steroids that Lance was on. They may not have been as near influential as we think. I, for the record, think Froome is clean, and some impressive athlete at that. He reckons he has five more years in him, so could break all the records.
Quote from: MoetVillan on July 24, 2017, 08:45:12 PMI read something the other day questioning the "value" of the steroids that Lance was on. They may not have been as near influential as we think. I, for the record, think Froome is clean, and some impressive athlete at that. He reckons he has five more years in him, so could break all the records.Wow, you honestly believe blood transfusions and EPO had a limited effect? No wonder you think Chris Froome went from someone disqualified for holding on to a motorbike to get up a climb the day after being a domestique for Greg Henderson to possibly one of the greatest cyclists ever, whilst being clean, because he trains hard, and sleeps on his own pillow.I'll leave the thread now, it's on a completely different level, where people think EPO doesn't do THAT much and bike weights actually matter in the 21st century.
Quote from: aj2k77 on July 25, 2017, 01:59:02 AMQuote from: MoetVillan on July 24, 2017, 08:45:12 PMI read something the other day questioning the "value" of the steroids that Lance was on. They may not have been as near influential as we think. I, for the record, think Froome is clean, and some impressive athlete at that. He reckons he has five more years in him, so could break all the records.Wow, you honestly believe blood transfusions and EPO had a limited effect? No wonder you think Chris Froome went from someone disqualified for holding on to a motorbike to get up a climb the day after being a domestique for Greg Henderson to possibly one of the greatest cyclists ever, whilst being clean, because he trains hard, and sleeps on his own pillow.I'll leave the thread now, it's on a completely different level, where people think EPO doesn't do THAT much and bike weights actually matter in the 21st century.So a young rider does something stupid to cut corners gets caught and is disqualified? Hardly makes him prime candidate for EPO/Steroids or whatever once his developed into an experienced professional cyclist.
Quote from: peter w on July 25, 2017, 10:59:45 AMQuote from: aj2k77 on July 25, 2017, 01:59:02 AMQuote from: MoetVillan on July 24, 2017, 08:45:12 PMI read something the other day questioning the "value" of the steroids that Lance was on. They may not have been as near influential as we think. I, for the record, think Froome is clean, and some impressive athlete at that. He reckons he has five more years in him, so could break all the records.Wow, you honestly believe blood transfusions and EPO had a limited effect? No wonder you think Chris Froome went from someone disqualified for holding on to a motorbike to get up a climb the day after being a domestique for Greg Henderson to possibly one of the greatest cyclists ever, whilst being clean, because he trains hard, and sleeps on his own pillow.I'll leave the thread now, it's on a completely different level, where people think EPO doesn't do THAT much and bike weights actually matter in the 21st century.So a young rider does something stupid to cut corners gets caught and is disqualified? Hardly makes him prime candidate for EPO/Steroids or whatever once his developed into an experienced professional cyclist.Problem is Peter there's a lot of people that think there's a bit more to it than just hanging onto a motorbike. There is perhaps good reason to be suspicious about Froome, from his TUE exemption for corticosteroids at the 2014 Tour de Romandie and the 2013 ascent of Ventoux where his power to weight ratio and heart rate were in Lying Lance territory (over 7 watts per Kg).Doubts will persist unfortunately.