John Terry - Gone

[Toronto Villa]

How on earth would John Terry know what it's like to win a Champion's League?! Lots of us watched it like he did, but I don't think that's quite the same thing.

He was still captain of the club. That he didn’t play in the final is immaterial

[algy]

How on earth would John Terry know what it's like to win a Champion's League?! Lots of us watched it like he did, but I don't think that's quite the same thing.

Maybe he told him that when Villa win the FA Cup next May, Jack can just rock up in full kit and pretend that he's won it too.

[olaftab]

So Joe said he made up his mind to move after a long chat with Terry.
Thanks John.

Not at all, unless you made your mind up about John Terry long ago and you want to spend your life looking for spurious evidence to discredit him.

It is true that I have very low tolerance level for Mr Terry and I don't think Joe is smart enough to deflect criticism by making up something and is shallow enough to be influenced easily.

So of all the hundreds of people Ratboy spoke to during his career, one chat with his old foreman was enough tio make up his mind.

Well that and his chats with other players, the so called champions league players in the England camp. He is as shallow as a comic-strip for romantic teenagers. When talent was handed out somehow it missed his brain.

[Toronto Villa]

Going back to Chelsea in a consultancy capacity for their youth team. Imagine it’s a chance to go back to his club while waiting for a manager job

[N'ZMAV]

I wonder if he thought he'd walk into a job but has struggled? this is a good chance for him to keep learning

[ChicagoLion]

I wonder if he thought he'd walk into a job but has struggled? this is a good chance for him to keep learning

Still think there were problems in the camp that saw the exodus over the summer.

[Lsvilla]

I wonder if he thought he'd walk into a job but has struggled? this is a good chance for him to keep learning

Still think there were problems in the camp that saw the exodus over the summer.

One of the senior coaches doesn’t leave two days before the start of the season without something going on behind the scenes. My mate - who played with O’Kelly and Dean at Walsall - didn’t have any info when he spoke to him about it but had seen RoK at a golf day and got the “non-discloure agreement” response.

[paul_e]

Just to add a couple of quick points here, I find it interesting that RoK hasn't gone to Norwich and that Terry doesn't seem to be in any great rush to get a managers job given there's been plenty that would've been a decent fit come up already.

In the summer a lot of people suggested that Lange was interfering with the coaching but the more that time passes the less likely I think that is. I suspect Shakespeare is a big part of it though, he seems to have pushed in to become Smith's 2nd in command and I can't see that going over well with either Terry or RoK.

[Demitri_C]

Terry made a bad mistake  leaving.  I reckon he would have got the job on a caretaker basis when smith was sacked.

Now he demoted to a small role at chelsea

[Dante Lavelli]

The way it has played out the rumour that Terry and RoK were sacked because they advised Grealish to join city grows in credibility. Neither look like they had a plan in place, which was certainly how Terry made it sound in his leaving statement. 

I suppose they could still be in the Villa payroll so have turned down other roles, as I’m not sure what they did was a sackable offence under the eyes of the law.

[Villan82]

Summer 2021 began with such promise and ended in a complete shitshow. If that rumour is true then I am glad both were sacked (if true).

[OCD]

ROK was being moved to the academy and he (understandably) took it as a slight against him and left over it. He wasn't sacked. Terry thought he would be in a job before the season ended and didn't want to start a season if he wasn't going to finish it and he wanted to spend time at various other clubs.

[Hookeysmith]

ROK was being moved to the academy and he (understandably) took it as a slight against him and left over it. He wasn't sacked. Terry thought he would be in a job before the season ended and didn't want to start a season if he wasn't going to finish it and he wanted to spend time at various other clubs.

Is the correct answer on both counts - people should not try and conjure up anything else

[Dante Lavelli]

ROK was being moved to the academy and he (understandably) took it as a slight against him and left over it. He wasn't sacked. Terry thought he would be in a job before the season ended and didn't want to start a season if he wasn't going to finish it and he wanted to spend time at various other clubs.

Is the correct answer on both counts - people should not try and conjure up anything else

Do you know that is fact or just think it is the most likely? 

[adrenachrome]

So Joe said he made up his mind to move after a long chat with Terry.
Thanks John.

Not at all, unless you made your mind up about John Terry long ago and you want to spend your life looking for spurious evidence to discredit him.

It is true that I have very low tolerance level for Mr Terry and I don't think Joe is smart enough to deflect criticism by making up something and is shallow enough to be influenced easily.

So of all the hundreds of people Ratboy spoke to during his career, one chat with his old foreman was enough tio make up his mind.

Well that and his chats with other players, the so called champions league players in the England camp. He is as shallow as a comic-strip for romantic teenagers. When talent was handed out somehow it missed his brain.

It is a truism that JG, a prodigiously talented ballist, is not the sharpest knife in he drawer. His latest faux pas is but the last of a long list.

I reckon 99.8% of pro's in the game would have advised him to move.

The timing of the whole process fucked up us, no doubt, but that is more to do with the power of agents.