John Terry - Gone

[Sexual Ealing]

Surely that guard of fucking honour on 26 minutes ought to be reason enough to deplore him.

[WilliamStanding]

What a fantastic post.(TV)

[olaftab]

Surely that guard of fucking honour on 26 minutes ought to be reason enough to deplore him.

And nicely followed by slipping the kit on for the European cup.

[Sexual Ealing]

Surely that guard of fucking honour on 26 minutes ought to be reason enough to deplore him.

And nicely followed by slipping the kit on for the European cup.

Yep. Several lifetimes-worth of scorn and derision earned right there.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

As someone who isn’t white and has been subject to racism in my life I applaud anyone who has tried to embrace change. Mistakes are made. Those who refuse to learn from them are the problem. You can view anything you want through a cynical lense. I’d prefer to look at that incident as something he has tried to grow from and hasn’t repeated and if it means he has a greater understanding of systemic racism in sport and society then good for him.

I fully agree. History is full of great people that were once on the dark side but found the light.

[algy]

I wasn't belittling his contribution to Villa so much as his contribution to humanity.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Do you not believe that people can change or should past indiscretions always be held against people? Judged on his behaviour and professionalism with us I would say he certainly has put that sort of behaviour behind him.

Yes, I believe in redemption. And good luck to him if he's changed. However, on something as trivial football supporting I retain a right to pettyness, prejudice and an inherrent dislike of John Terry.

Amen. One of the funniest sights in post lockdown football has been Terry taking the knee for BLM

As someone who isn’t white and has been subject to racism in my life I applaud anyone who has tried to embrace change. Mistakes are made. Those who refuse to learn from them are the problem. You can view anything you want through a cynical lense. I’d prefer to look at that incident as something he has tried to grow from and hasn’t repeated and if it means he has a greater understanding of systemic racism in sport and society then good for him.

Well said.

Can't say I was enamoured with the prospect of John Terry joining the club, or being made captain. But he's not come across as the person I thought he was, in fact quite the opposite. Hope he stays, I think he'd make a good successor to Dean Smith with a little more experience on the coaching side.

[WilliamStanding]

Met JT last year at Bodymoor Heath, found him to be really likeable chap. He never hit on my missus once.

[Somniloquism]

Could be a judgement on the Mrs rather then JT though....

[WilliamStanding]

TBF, she’s no Sharon Stone.

JT definitely appeared a decent fella though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I wasn't belittling his contribution to Villa so much as his contribution to humanity.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Do you not believe that people can change or should past indiscretions always be held against people? Judged on his behaviour and professionalism with us I would say he certainly has put that sort of behaviour behind him.

Yes, I believe in redemption. And good luck to him if he's changed. However, on something as trivial football supporting I retain a right to pettyness, prejudice and an inherrent dislike of John Terry.

Amen. One of the funniest sights in post lockdown football has been Terry taking the knee for BLM

As someone who isn’t white and has been subject to racism in my life I applaud anyone who has tried to embrace change. Mistakes are made. Those who refuse to learn from them are the problem. You can view anything you want through a cynical lense. I’d prefer to look at that incident as something he has tried to grow from and hasn’t repeated and if it means he has a greater understanding of systemic racism in sport and society then good for him.

Well said, he's allegedly done/said a few despicable things in his lifetime, but if people can't change for the better then we're all doomed.

Indeed.

Although there are some exceptions.

[Somniloquism]

I posted a link to JT fundraising 250k during lockdown and he has done other things which shows a redemption it seems. Have either of those done anything to even make us think about redeeming them. At least TF had the brilliantn idea to manage BCFC and gave us years of laughter and entertainment so he is redeemed to some extent.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'm pretty sure that if John Terry had given a couple of low-key years' service to West Ham or Newcastle everyone on here would still think that he was a twat

[cdbearsfan]

Very true.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm disaapointed at how few people call him by his correct name, Appleyard.

[WilliamStanding]

JT has certainly not done himself any favours over the years that’s for sure with previous misdemeanours.  IMHO I think he will take a head coach/ manager Job during the upcoming season.