Aston Villa v Reading Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithe]

Shitelights

Looked a good game?

[tony scott]

Well yesterday came as no great surprise, it was possibly my last visit to Villa Park (nothing morbid not that I know of ) My first game was in 1959 so I was hoping for something a bit special hmmm. I would have thought that S B would have yanked Amavi off after 30 mins to me that's what you expect of a good manager.  Jonathan k was constantly fouled under the refs nose our players can see this happening why aren't our Cbs climbing all over Mendez?  I hope next season we will improve it shouldn't be difficult considering reaching the top 8 should achieve that, it would be great shame ,given our resources to be messing about in the bottom half of this division again UTV

[Richard E]

Shitelights

Looked a good game?

I thought it was an entertaining game yesterday. Just a cack result.

[brian green]

Going back to Aftab's point about not letting balls run out of play, to me it is a symptom of dimness that runs through our teams.  We have nobody with a quick brain and several with no brain at all.  How many times do we see our players play themselves into trouble with their teammates just watching, not moving in to avert a break.  You got yourself into it you get yourself out of it.  Bacuna and Amavi are mentally weak. They needed a Barry or a Petrov or a Richardson to make them braver by example and by voice commands.  I had hoped Jedinak would be that man but he was fighting private wars yesterday, both with the opposition and his own skill levels.

[Virgil Caine]

Going back to Aftab's point about not letting balls run out of play, to me it is a symptom of dimness that runs through our teams.  We have nobody with a quick brain and several with no brain at all.  How many times do we see our players play themselves into trouble with their teammates just watching, not moving in to avert a break.  You got yourself into it you get yourself out of it.  Bacuna and Amavi are mentally weak. They needed a Barry or a Petrov or a Richardson to make them braver by example and by voice commands.  I had hoped Jedinak would be that man but he was fighting private wars yesterday, both with the opposition and his own skill levels.

Brian, for the benefit of younger viewers I assume you mean Richardson of the Kevin variety rather than Keiron?

[Rudy65]

Also, yes the football isn't great but we were unbeaten in nine games and had 12,000 empty seats. Where were the missing thousands who have got Small Heath tickets?

I am one of those missing ones you refer to. Ive been to Burton and Derby recently and we were dire in both, add the tv games Ive seen, and to be frank I dont want to waste my money watching us play like that. In my view Bruce isnt the answer.

[brian green]

Yes, of course, sorry about that.  Once, playing Wimbledon who were determined to send us home from Selhurst Park in body bags Kevin held us together with ninety minutes of fucking and blinding.  Keiron, training for the Ministry, would never have heard such words.

[not3bad]

Typical end of season on the beach nothing to play for performance.

Sums it up. Hope we demonstrate some sort of desire next week, as Blues will be desperate for something.

[Ads]

That's never a penalty the diving shit house.

[brian green]

He knew with that ref he would get the penalty.  The referee started out with the mind set that Kodjia was going to get nothing and his theme developed from there.  I would have been truly amazed if that referee had not awarded a penalty against us at some point.  You can tell by their body language which refs are arrogant little tossers.  He was a prime example.

[Nev]

The habit of analysing the whole club, management, structure and team through the lens of one game is an annoying one. Reading had something to play for, we didn't. We, subconsciously perhaps after last week, dropped down a gear, got lazy and made mistakes. Is it right? not really but I have seen games like this down all the years, dreary, moribund outings that make you sigh and shake your head but it's not the sign of the malaise of the last five years. We are in recovery and it's a rather painful and frustrating process that will take time. Formations, players and tactics will change and hopefully will bring dividends. Patience is all at the moment where Villa are concerned and to counter yesterdays dissapointment just think back to a result like that in the midst of the knawing, horrific fear of relegation that haunted us for so long and could've been present still.

Of course, were a performance and result such as yesterday manifest itself this time next week than I, like you all will be demanding the head of everyone from Bruce to the groundsman on a plate.

[The Edge]

That's never a penalty the diving shit house.

Not a pen in a million years but where were the protests?Hogan who when playing in a Brentford kit would of smashed that chance into the net? And as for the braindead twonk who kept the ball in play to give the ball to them well deary me. What a total fuckwit. Kodja and Hogan don't seem to like each other. Yet another major overhaul of the squad is going to be needed if we are to have any chance of top two.

[Rudy65]

The habit of analysing the whole club, management, structure and team through the lens of one game is an annoying one. Reading had something to play for, we didn't. We, subconsciously perhaps after last week, dropped down a gear, got lazy and made mistakes. Is it right? not really but I have seen games like this down all the years, dreary, moribund outings that make you sigh and shake your head but it's not the sign of the malaise of the last five years. We are in recovery and it's a rather painful and frustrating process that will take time. Formations, players and tactics will change and hopefully will bring dividends. Patience is all at the moment where Villa are concerned and to counter yesterdays dissapointment just think back to a result like that in the midst of the knawing, horrific fear of relegation that haunted us for so long and could've been present still.

Of course, were a performance and result such as yesterday manifest itself this time next week than I, like you all will be demanding the head of everyone from Bruce to the groundsman on a plate.

All I want to see is some progress. To my mind we have seen none since the start of the season which is unacceptable given the funds spent by both managers. I suspect others are the same

[Chris Smith]

The habit of analysing the whole club, management, structure and team through the lens of one game is an annoying one. Reading had something to play for, we didn't. We, subconsciously perhaps after last week, dropped down a gear, got lazy and made mistakes. Is it right? not really but I have seen games like this down all the years, dreary, moribund outings that make you sigh and shake your head but it's not the sign of the malaise of the last five years. We are in recovery and it's a rather painful and frustrating process that will take time. Formations, players and tactics will change and hopefully will bring dividends. Patience is all at the moment where Villa are concerned and to counter yesterdays dissapointment just think back to a result like that in the midst of the knawing, horrific fear of relegation that haunted us for so long and could've been present still.

Of course, were a performance and result such as yesterday manifest itself this time next week than I, like you all will be demanding the head of everyone from Bruce to the groundsman on a plate.

Good points, Nev, nothing to add.

[Nev]

The habit of analysing the whole club, management, structure and team through the lens of one game is an annoying one. Reading had something to play for, we didn't. We, subconsciously perhaps after last week, dropped down a gear, got lazy and made mistakes. Is it right? not really but I have seen games like this down all the years, dreary, moribund outings that make you sigh and shake your head but it's not the sign of the malaise of the last five years. We are in recovery and it's a rather painful and frustrating process that will take time. Formations, players and tactics will change and hopefully will bring dividends. Patience is all at the moment where Villa are concerned and to counter yesterdays dissapointment just think back to a result like that in the midst of the knawing, horrific fear of relegation that haunted us for so long and could've been present still.

Of course, were a performance and result such as yesterday manifest itself this time next week than I, like you all will be demanding the head of everyone from Bruce to the groundsman on a plate.

All I want to see is some progress. To my mind we have seen none since the start of the season which is unacceptable given the funds spent by both managers. I suspect others are the same

The progress I see is in terms of results and the fact that we are not looking over our shoulder. In a season where we changed manager and given the mindset around Villa Park for so long I am happy enough for now.