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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2017, 09:50:16 PM »
West Ham Spurs is probably the most significant risk game in the Smoke that's played with any regularity and there's no fannying around cutting allocations or bubbling the fixture.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2017, 09:50:42 PM »
A quick Google search tells me that Manchester United will be getting 2,750 at City this month. I've no idea of the others, including the ones that haven't taken place for some time but from memory they all have bigger away sections or the ability to expand them then we have. 

They regularly get far more for cup games, while we were restricted to fewer than 2,000 tickets for a major cup quarter-final.

Man United received over 5,000 tickets for a cup game at Man City and still complained to the FA that they received less than 7,000.

If it isn't police advice, why aren't the club sticking up for our fans and trying to get as large an away allocation as possible?

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2017, 09:52:15 PM »
A quick Google search tells me that Manchester United will be getting 2,750 at City this month. I've no idea of the others, including the ones that haven't taken place for some time but from memory they all have bigger away sections or the ability to expand them then we have. 

They regularly get far more for cup games, while we were restricted to fewer than 2,000 tickets for a major cup quarter-final.

Man United received over 5,000 tickets for a cup game at Man City and still complained to the FA that they received less than 7,000.

If it isn't police advice, why aren't the club sticking up for our fans and trying to get as large an away allocation as possible?

I don't know. Why don't you ask them?

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2017, 09:53:06 PM »
West Ham Spurs is probably the most significant risk game in the Smoke that's played with any regularity and there's no fannying around cutting allocations or bubbling the fixture.
West Ham v Spurs is a Friday night on Sky. Imagine WMP allowing Villa Blues in a league game on a Friday night?

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2017, 09:54:27 PM »
West Ham Spurs is probably the most significant risk game in the Smoke that's played with any regularity and there's no fannying around cutting allocations or bubbling the fixture.
West Ham v Spurs is a Friday night on Sky. Imagine WMP allowing Villa Blues in a league game on a Friday night?

They'd bubble the fixture and still miss 50 Noses walking along the canals 3 hours before kick off because they're too busy sat on mass watching none risk elements at the Briar Rose.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2017, 09:54:50 PM »
We have fans, including yourself, who liaise with the club on a regular basis. I felt that this was an appropriate forum to suggest a viewpoint which could be fed back, or not, depending on the preference of those who attend the meetings.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2017, 09:57:27 PM »
We have fans, including yourself, who liaise with the club on a regular basis. I felt that this was an appropriate forum to suggest a viewpoint which could be fed back, or not, depending on the preference of those who attend the meetings.

And there are also plenty of ways for all fans to contact the club at all times.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2017, 09:58:01 PM »
Pretty sure we had about 4K for the QF. Our allocation for the league game there later in the season was cut because of problems at the LC game.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2017, 09:59:43 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2017, 10:03:22 PM »
Oh okay, may have got the two mixed up.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2017, 10:06:28 PM »
So at their shed we get kept in for nearly an hour and then get a magical mystery tour of Small Heath and Digbeth just because there's a few chavvy little scrotes who think they're big bad Zulus. Then at our place we have to take detours and can't use Witton Station to protect these big bad Zulus, who are bringing 18 coaches. Just keep the peasants in the ground for half an hour, police them inside the ground so they can't cause any damage, and disperse Villa fans outside the ground. Simple. We're at home yet the police are making it to suit them, escorting them in straight off the safety of their coaches and not letting our fans go where they want to go.

If you think Villa and Blues fans mingling on Witton Lane is a good idea, then i'm glad your not a policeman.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2017, 10:09:00 PM »
They are expecting most of the local pubs to have temporary event licences to open at around 8am - The Social, The Tavern, Witton Arms etc - the police have no problem with this and these applications will be unopposed. However, anyone opening without the relevant licence will be closed down - so that is down to the pubs not the police.

Phew, thank goodness. Imagine not being able to have four hours of solid drinking time before a midday kick-off.



8am. Sausage, Bacon, Fried Eggs, Black Pudding, Baked Beans, Fried Tomato, Fried Bread. All washed down with Eight cans of Stella.

I'm sorry, but baked beans should have no place in a breakfast.

Baked beans have no place in a civilised society.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2017, 10:10:01 PM »
It all sounds a bit over the top to me, as was our detention and silly walk at their place (although it was easy enough to break away from that)... however the big issue here is that more people will now be walking the same route away from the ground as me and you lot all walk too bloody slow.
Can the police cone off a fast lane for those of us that want to walk faster? If not, how about keeping all the slow walkers in the ground for a minute.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2017, 10:15:10 PM »
It all sounds a bit over the top to me, as was our detention and silly walk at their place (although it was easy enough to break away from that)... however the big issue here is that more people will now be walking the same route away from the ground as me and you lot all walk too bloody slow.
Can the police cone off a fast lane for those of us that want to walk faster? If not, how about keeping all the slow walkers in the ground for a minute.

Good point - I'll feed this back.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2017, 10:16:26 PM »
They are expecting most of the local pubs to have temporary event licences to open at around 8am - The Social, The Tavern, Witton Arms etc - the police have no problem with this and these applications will be unopposed. However, anyone opening without the relevant licence will be closed down - so that is down to the pubs not the police.

Phew, thank goodness. Imagine not being able to have four hours of solid drinking time before a midday kick-off.



8am. Sausage, Bacon, Fried Eggs, Black Pudding, Baked Beans, Fried Tomato, Fried Bread. All washed down with Eight cans of Stella.

I'm sorry, but baked beans should have no place in a breakfast.

Baked beans have no place in a civilised society.
Never mind a can of beans, somebody has opened a can of worms here. All a bit OTT to me, I bet all have seen worse than what will happen on the 23rd.

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Re: Blues match police crowd management
« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2017, 10:18:04 PM »
It all sounds a bit over the top to me, as was our detention and silly walk at their place (although it was easy enough to break away from that)... however the big issue here is that more people will now be walking the same route away from the ground as me and you lot all walk too bloody slow.
Can the police cone off a fast lane for those of us that want to walk faster? If not, how about keeping all the slow walkers in the ground for a minute.

I'm with you regarding this all seeming OTT.

Although I've now been going to Villa games for twenty years I still struggle to understand segregation of fans and the attitude of people that makes it necessary.

 


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