Summer transfer madness thread

[Dave]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

Well we've just finished in our lowest league position for 43 years so crap players could have something to do with it..........

Ditto. Joe Bennett

Isn't Joe Bennett happily sitting on top of the league following five straight wins for his new side, one of which was a loveless rogering handed out to us?

(although I'm not sure whether this might have been the very point you were making)

[eamonn]

Chris mentioned in another thread but let's see how we fare defensively when Jedinak returns. His presence was a calming influence on those around him last season, Whelan doesn't seem to be able to replicate that.

[saunders_heroes]

Joe Bennett was absolutely diabolical at Aston Villa. The fact he may have started the season well at a different club is irrelevant to that fact. Actually he was nearly as bad as Jordan Bowery who I think is the worst footballer I've ever seen in claret and blue during my 40 years of watching the Villa.
Mind you I will say that since 2010 the club was in a state of decomposition and that may have had an effect of making our players look a lot worse.

[Mister E]

Joe Bennett was absolutely diabolical at Aston Villa. The fact he may have started the season well at a different club is irrelevant to that fact. Actually he was nearly as bad as Jordan Bowery who I think it's the worst footballer I've ever seen in claret and blue during my 40 years of watching the Villa.
Mind you I will say that since 2010 the club was in a state of decomposition and that may have had an effect of making our players look a lot worse.

Bennett was a player that would have thrived in a club that wasn't decomposing with crap management and irresponsible senior players.

[saunders_heroes]

He was totally out of his depth in the PL, which is probably why he's in the Championship now. He was never good enough for us.

[Dave]

He was totally out of his depth in the PL, which is probably why he's in the Championship now. He was never good enough for us.

He probably would be now.

[saunders_heroes]

He was totally out of his depth in the PL, which is probably why he's in the Championship now. He was never good enough for us.

He probably would be now.

Maybe, I've barely seen him play since. He should never have been thrown into our team when he was though.

[Gareth]

Centre half is probably the most exposed position on the pitch and every perceived mistake gets highlighted, Terry is not perfect, even McGrath wasn't perfect.  If Terry had stayed in the Premier League where the forwards are more clinical he would have been exposed but he should have more than enough to do a job in this league.  His performances are always going to be analysed to the hilt because of who he is but for me he has been perfectly adequate.

As for Baker he was always 8 or 9/10 or 5 or 6/10, there was never enough 7/10 performances.

[Rudy65]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

Well we've just finished in our lowest league position for 43 years so crap players could have something to do with it..........

Ditto. Joe Bennett

Isn't Joe Bennett happily sitting on top of the league following five straight wins for his new side, one of which was a loveless rogering handed out to us?

(although I'm not sure whether this might have been the very point you were making)

That was my point in that we criticise (inc me) some of our players who then go on to better things. Matt Lowton anyone

[saunders_heroes]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

Well we've just finished in our lowest league position for 43 years so crap players could have something to do with it..........

Ditto. Joe Bennett

Isn't Joe Bennett happily sitting on top of the league following five straight wins for his new side, one of which was a loveless rogering handed out to us?

(although I'm not sure whether this might have been the very point you were making)

That was my point in that we criticise (inc me) some of our players who then go on to better things. Matt Lowton anyone

Lowton was crap for us as well. It could be argued that we did the dirty work by giving them playing time and got them ready for better things. That's Aston Villa giving experience to lower league players then sending them on their way to better things at Cardiff and Burnley.

[Dave]

He was totally out of his depth in the PL, which is probably why he's in the Championship now. He was never good enough for us.

He probably would be now.

Maybe, I've barely seen him play since. He should never have been thrown into our team when he was though.

Nor me - more a comment on how if our aspirations are now to scrape the points to keep us clear of the bottom half of the Championship, then he's probably good enough for that.

[garyshawsknee]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

Well we've just finished in our lowest league position for 43 years so crap players could have something to do with it..........

Ditto. Joe Bennett

Isn't Joe Bennett happily sitting on top of the league following five straight wins for his new side, one of which was a loveless rogering handed out to us?

(although I'm not sure whether this might have been the very point you were making)

That was my point in that we criticise (inc me) some of our players who then go on to better things. Matt Lowton anyone

Lowton was crap for us as well. It could be argued that we did the dirty work by giving them playing time and got them ready for better things. That's Aston Villa giving experience to lower league players then sending them on their way to better things at Cardiff and Burnley.

Or making good young players worse and totally void of decent coaching and confidence ?

[olaftab]

even McGrath wasn't perfect.

How dare you? Go and wash your mouth out and say 1500 "Hail McGrath".

[sickbeggar]

Well two players who've got promoted in championship sides and may well come straight back down, doesn't say to me we've sold badly. In May if both Newcastle and Burnley are still in the top league and both players contributed to them staying up then you may have a point. At the moment they're at the same level they were found wanting with us, and may well be found wanting again.

*I guess Lowton has survived 2 seasons in the premier but then so did a lot of villa players.

[Villa in Denmark]

Well two players who've got promoted in championship sides and may well come straight back down, doesn't say to me we've sold badly. In May if both Newcastle and Burnley are still in the top league and both players contributed to them staying up then you may have a point. At the moment they're at the same level they were found wanting with us, and may well be found wanting again.

*I guess Lowton has survived 2 seasons in the premier but then so did a lot of villa players.

That might have something to do with a manager that knows his arse from his elbow as opposed to our last several incumbents.