Summer transfer madness thread

[saunders_heroes]

I don't remember him making too many almighty cock ups personally.

You must have a short memory then. He was a disaster of a player, but he was one of many of the type of player we had inflicted onto us since 2010. I suppose we just got used to them and they become the norm.

[sickbeggar]

I don't think Baker even features in my "Crappest players ever in a Villa Shirt" list. Some feat considering most of them have played for us in the last 5 years.As i said, he's an average Championship defender. Probably Bruce would have liked to have kept him, but with the money situation, a decent fee for a player not expected to feature much was a price worth paying, if it means he can get in someone who will feature,

[Clampy]

I don't remember him making too many almighty cock ups personally.

You must have a short memory then. He was a disaster of a player, but he was one of many of the type of player we had inflicted onto us since 2010. I suppose we just got used to them and they become the norm.

I can't think of any off the top of my head unless you can

Disaster of a player is very harsh but each to their own opinions i suppose.

[Clampy]

I don't remember him making too many almighty cock ups personally.

You don't remember Baker making too many almighty cock-ups?  Really?

Last season was better (but he still made more than you'd like) and he wasn't here the year before but for the 3-4 seasons before that he fucked up with alarming regularity.  I didn't want Terry because I was worried he wasn't the player he had been but lets not rewrite history and suggest that Baker is a massive loss.

I'm not too sure where i've said he'll be a massive loss and I don't think too many other people have either. All i see is posts saying he wasn't as bad as some make out, which i think is true.

[passport1]

Terrys legs have gone. So much so that he appears to have lost the ability to jump. He was protected by very good players at Chelsea , clearly not the case with us. It's going to a long season for JT.

[paul_e]

I don't remember him making too many almighty cock ups personally.

You don't remember Baker making too many almighty cock-ups?  Really?

Last season was better (but he still made more than you'd like) and he wasn't here the year before but for the 3-4 seasons before that he fucked up with alarming regularity.  I didn't want Terry because I was worried he wasn't the player he had been but lets not rewrite history and suggest that Baker is a massive loss.

I'm not too sure where i've said he'll be a massive loss and I don't think too many other people have either. All i see is posts saying he wasn't as bad as some make out, which i think is true.

He was every bit as bad as he's made out, that we've dropped to level where he's only just a little below what we need to get promotion doesn't stop him being a poor player who's now found his level in the bottom half of the championship.

[Clampy]

I personally don't think he was poor at all.

[KRS]

Depends what you're expectations and aspirations are for the team and the players in the team. If we're happy to stay in the Championship then Baker is perfectly fine, but if you want promotion to and stay in the Premier League then he's not good enough.

I wasn't fussed at all to see him go, but as I've said before, it's looking like a bad decision to let him leave given how fragile we look at the back at the moment, and particularly with only Samba and Elphick as back up should one of Chester or Terry get a long term injury. Not a great situation at all even if the likes of Jedinak or De Laet could provide extra cover.

[Dave]

Depends what you're expectations and aspirations are for the team and the players in the team. If we're happy to stay in the Championship then Baker is perfectly fine, but if you want promotion to and stay in the Premier League then he's not good enough.

Perfectly fair. Unfortunately, it seems that a load of the players we've decided to spend a load of money on aren't either.

[berneboy]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

[SoccerHQ]

Baker is fine at this level from what I saw last year.

Put it this way we kept plenty of clean sheets last season. Some might say that was down to the very defensive tactics adopted but we've largely done the same this season and can't keep a clean sheet.

Chester looks a total bag of nerves so something is unsettling him.

[sickbeggar]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

Well we've just finished in our lowest league position for 43 years so crap players could have something to do with it..........

[Rudy65]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

Well we've just finished in our lowest league position for 43 years so crap players could have something to do with it..........

Ditto. Joe Bennett

[pauliewalnuts]

Ciaran seemed happy to leave us after being a 'poor' centre back and not good enough but he was man of the match in the Premiership match for Newcastle this weekend. Perhaps it's what we do to them.

Or perhaps we talk out of our arses and make out players are far worse than they actually are

Well we've just finished in our lowest league position for 43 years so crap players could have something to do with it..........

Ditto. Joe Bennett

Ditto Agbonlahor but s_h won't be having any of that.