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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3030 on: August 16, 2017, 01:02:39 PM »
None of us are privvy to what goes on at the training ground. There must be a reason why a manager who's down to 1 senior striker would not look to a proven goalscorer in the championship and would rather go with kids.

Regardless, when you're actively trying to sell a player, publicising the fact that you don't think he's very good is pretty stupid.

But his past goal scoring record is there for other manager's to see. Us leaving him out is not going to put off manager's. There might well be something else going on other than Bruce not wanting to play him.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3031 on: August 16, 2017, 01:23:13 PM »
Is it all that surprising that the man who was foiled by his front gate isn't putting the effort?

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3032 on: August 16, 2017, 01:54:09 PM »
None of us are privvy to what goes on at the training ground. There must be a reason why a manager who's down to 1 senior striker would not look to a proven goalscorer in the championship and would rather go with kids.

I've no problem with Bruce deciding that McCormack is behind others on the basis of preseason/training.

However, I don't see the point of making some big announcement about it to the press which is only likely to reduce an unwanted player's potential resale value and demotivate him in training.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3033 on: August 16, 2017, 02:02:48 PM »
None of us are privvy to what goes on at the training ground. There must be a reason why a manager who's down to 1 senior striker would not look to a proven goalscorer in the championship and would rather go with kids.

Regardless, when you're actively trying to sell a player, publicising the fact that you don't think he's very good is pretty stupid.

But his past goal scoring record is there for other manager's to see. Us leaving him out is not going to put off manager's. There might well be something else going on other than Bruce not wanting to play him.

His past goal-scoring record is exactly that - in the past. His current fitness, form and attitude are going to much more relevant to any potential buyer.

And again, regardless of anything that we either know or don't know about what's going on behind the scenes, nothing that Bruce has said here is going to do anything other than hinder us moving him on and receiving some form of decent compensation.

Surely this is just common sense? Look at how this worked-out with the bomb-squad. Any potential bidder now knows that we will do anything to get him off the books before the transfer deadline. Last week we were supposedly holding out for a £3m loan-fee. Bruce has effectively just kissed goodbye to that.
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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3034 on: August 16, 2017, 02:14:33 PM »
None of us are privvy to what goes on at the training ground. There must be a reason why a manager who's down to 1 senior striker would not look to a proven goalscorer in the championship and would rather go with kids.

I've no problem with Bruce deciding that McCormack is behind others on the basis of preseason/training.

However, I don't see the point of making some big announcement about it to the press which is only likely to reduce an unwanted player's potential resale value and demotivate him in training.

He was probably asked about it last night after Hogan's injury. It was hardly a big announcement.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3035 on: August 16, 2017, 02:19:25 PM »
He's not under any obligation to even talk to that rag. If he does feel that he has to, he should have the common sense to choose his words more carefully.

Any manager who was considering signing McCormack will read that and be put off, or at least think they can get away with dropping the price.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3036 on: August 16, 2017, 02:21:30 PM »
Any manager considering signing RM only has to speak to several licensees in Brum to be put off.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3037 on: August 16, 2017, 02:26:02 PM »
When we signed McCormack I seem to remember an article suggesting his teammates at Fulham were far from sorry to see him go because of his attitude. They certainly didn't seem to miss him judging by their league positions before and after he left.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3038 on: August 16, 2017, 02:27:03 PM »
None of us are privvy to what goes on at the training ground. There must be a reason why a manager who's down to 1 senior striker would not look to a proven goalscorer in the championship and would rather go with kids.

I've no problem with Bruce deciding that McCormack is behind others on the basis of preseason/training.

However, I don't see the point of making some big announcement about it to the press which is only likely to reduce an unwanted player's potential resale value and demotivate him in training.

He was probably asked about it last night after Hogan's injury. It was hardly a big announcement.

The general gist of the article is "I desperately need another striker, but Ross McCormack was rubbish in pre-season so I'm not considering him." It's already pretty common knowledge that we'er looking to move him on, highlighting that he's been shit isn't going to help that, is it? Especially as, having played a few preseason games, it looked like he was sorting himself out.

Even if he was asked, there are 1000 other explanations he could have given.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3039 on: August 16, 2017, 02:27:48 PM »
I've never really had Wilshere down as a twat, he's just nowhere near as good as he's made out to be and not what we need now.

Spot on as well as being injury prone

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3040 on: August 16, 2017, 02:29:31 PM »
He's not as good as he has been made out by the press at times. He's still comfortably better than any of our midfield and would be an immense signing... if he could stay fit, which is the big question mark.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3041 on: August 16, 2017, 02:32:25 PM »
Football is a fairly small, insular business. If a player is having the type of problems hinted at with RM then surely it will be known in the game. Otherwise his record would have guaranteed him offers from elsewhere.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3042 on: August 16, 2017, 03:01:30 PM »
Transfer madness would be giving the incumbent more money.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3043 on: August 16, 2017, 03:31:11 PM »
Can't see it happening but there does seem to be some "truth" in the Wilshere rumour as they've just been discussing him with Wenger on SSN. There will always be an injury risk but if he's fit then Wilshere would be an excellent signing and provide some much needed creativity linking midfield and behind the strikers...and probably even more so if we do get a new manager. Highly unlikely to happen anyway.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #3044 on: August 16, 2017, 04:27:34 PM »
We have a crock of a striker in Hogan. It would be very much Villa to add Wilshire to that. Better buy more beds in the physio room then. Not knocking his quality but if he is constantly hurt what is the point.

 


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