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Offline stuart445

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2190 on: July 24, 2017, 06:50:27 PM »
How are Wolves not falling foul of FFP they spent a fair bit as well last year didn't they?

They are now sponsored by the company that their owners have.

Makes you wonder why Dr Tony hasn't done that if he's so concerned by the FFP doesn't it

Personally I prefer the route we seem to be taking of trying to work within the regulations rather than trying to fool them.

Sadly that won't work, if everyone is doing it then you either follow suit or get beaten by them. Remember good guys always finish last.

Unfortunately if you can't beat them you have to join them
« Last Edit: July 24, 2017, 06:52:32 PM by stuart445 »

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2191 on: July 24, 2017, 07:18:23 PM »

I'm also perfectly happy to do it the way we are

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2192 on: July 24, 2017, 07:31:09 PM »
Maybe Recon are paying squillions to be our back of shirt sponsor.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2193 on: July 24, 2017, 08:37:16 PM »
How are Wolves not falling foul of FFP they spent a fair bit as well last year didn't they?

They are now sponsored by the company that their owners have.

Makes you wonder why Dr Tony hasn't done that if he's so concerned by the FFP doesn't it

Personally I prefer the route we seem to be taking of trying to work within the regulations rather than trying to fool them.

Sadly that won't work, if everyone is doing it then you either follow suit or get beaten by them. Remember good guys always finish last.

Unfortunately if you can't beat them you have to join them

Can see your point but would have to disagree....we have tried the throw money at it approach where no one cares about the wasted millions, working to a budget means all decisions have to be thought about.

Guess we'll know in 2/3 months whether this approach works

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2194 on: July 24, 2017, 08:44:01 PM »
How are Wolves not falling foul of FFP they spent a fair bit as well last year didn't they?

They are now sponsored by the company that their owners have.

Makes you wonder why Dr Tony hasn't done that if he's so concerned by the FFP doesn't it

Personally I prefer the route we seem to be taking of trying to work within the regulations rather than trying to fool them.

Sadly that won't work, if everyone is doing it then you either follow suit or get beaten by them. Remember good guys always finish last.

Unfortunately if you can't beat them you have to join them

Can see your point but would have to disagree....we have tried the throw money at it approach where no one cares about the wasted millions, working to a budget means all decisions have to be thought about.

While a very honourable approach, the exact same words could have been said when Lerner decided to turn the money tap off.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2195 on: July 24, 2017, 09:02:15 PM »
How are Wolves not falling foul of FFP they spent a fair bit as well last year didn't they?

They are now sponsored by the company that their owners have.

Makes you wonder why Dr Tony hasn't done that if he's so concerned by the FFP doesn't it

Personally I prefer the route we seem to be taking of trying to work within the regulations rather than trying to fool them.

Sadly that won't work, if everyone is doing it then you either follow suit or get beaten by them. Remember good guys always finish last.

Unfortunately if you can't beat them you have to join them

Can see your point but would have to disagree....we have tried the throw money at it approach where no one cares about the wasted millions, working to a budget means all decisions have to be thought about.

While a very honourable approach, the exact same words could have been said when Lerner decided to turn the money tap off.

Indeed, however on the flip side with Lerner it wasn't just the cash that stopped it was the interest and inclination to compete, that flooded through the place like a plague - I don't see any interest waning amongst those at the top just a realisation that we have to cut our cloth accordingly.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2196 on: July 24, 2017, 09:07:43 PM »
I have no problem with our owners (whoever they are) spending way beyond what they can afford on our club.

Football is a high risk business that requires cash to succeed. Spend and spend. If you cant spend any more then sell.


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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2197 on: July 24, 2017, 09:32:19 PM »
How are Wolves not falling foul of FFP they spent a fair bit as well last year didn't they?

They are now sponsored by the company that their owners have.

Makes you wonder why Dr Tony hasn't done that if he's so concerned by the FFP doesn't it

Personally I prefer the route we seem to be taking of trying to work within the regulations rather than trying to fool them.

Sadly that won't work, if everyone is doing it then you either follow suit or get beaten by them. Remember good guys always finish last.

Unfortunately if you can't beat them you have to join them

Can see your point but would have to disagree....we have tried the throw money at it approach where no one cares about the wasted millions, working to a budget means all decisions have to be thought about.

While a very honourable approach, the exact same words could have been said when Lerner decided to turn the money tap off.

We're still paying out incredible decent wages for this level...Terry it seems is on 50K +, Whelan was on 30-40k at Stoke so I doubt he's taken much of a reduction.

Big difference is Lerner was paying out bargain bucket wages in the second half of his reign. 2012 when we signed Bowery, Lowton and Westwood from bottom 2 divisions, 2013 when Helenius, Okore and Tonev were coming from Danish and Polish leagues respectively and then 2014 when Senderos and Joe Cole were coming on (probably) pay as you play contracts.

Shows how badly run we were that even in those times our wage bill was probably still top 10 in the premier league.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2198 on: July 24, 2017, 09:34:07 PM »
I have no problem with our owners (whoever they are) spending way beyond what they can afford on our club.

Football is a high risk business that requires cash to succeed. Spend and spend. If you cant spend any more then sell.



Indeed

What harm did this do under Lerner?

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2199 on: July 24, 2017, 10:26:20 PM »
I think the biggest waste of money during the Lener era wasn't on players. It was every single penny we paid that useless arsehole Tom Fox.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2200 on: July 24, 2017, 11:11:48 PM »
Lerner didn't just turn the money tap off or lose interest. He failed to form a decent management structure with industry experience to run the club in his absence. 2 things Xia did early on was to appoint Wyness as Chairman and Steve Round as Technical Director. That's immediately more than Lerner did in terms of putting a structure in place.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2201 on: July 24, 2017, 11:51:42 PM »
I think the biggest waste of money during the Lener era wasn't on players. It was every single penny we paid that useless arsehole Tom Fox Martin O'Neill.

Fixed.

Now if we'd hired him in 1985..

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2202 on: July 25, 2017, 08:21:09 AM »
I agree with Gareth.  It was not the turning off of the money by Lerner that did such damage to us.  It was his half arsed now-you-see-me-now-you-don't approach to owning the club.  He was a messer.  It spread right through the club and right through the chain of managers from McLeish to Black and right through the players from Ireland to Richards.  We have just paid £1million for Elmohamady.  How much did Charles N'Zogbia cost us?  That is the difference between what we were and what we are now.  Yes, we wasted a huge amount on Ross McCormack but at least that lesson has been learned and hopes can be allowed to rise that we are finally on the long march back.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2017, 08:25:00 AM by brian green »

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2203 on: July 25, 2017, 08:53:11 AM »
Vertout having a medical at Fiorentina so looks like he's off.

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Re: Summer transfer madness thread
« Reply #2204 on: July 25, 2017, 09:02:38 AM »
He can tell them how good Richards is.

 


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