Summer transfer madness thread

[SoccerHQ]

I think he could be a positive influence in the dressing room, the other players will be in awe of him.

Our best player is black. Several of our players are black. Why send a message out that we don't care about racism? How is that going to improve dressing room relations?

Football dressing rooms work completely differently to society. Likes of Drogba and Ashley Cole didn't seem to mind much at Chelsea.

If you're winning games regularly players will let pretty much anything pass.

[cdbearsfan]

Rio Ferdinand was a teammate and quite clearly had a problem training with him. I suspect others have kept their mouths shut rather than sacrifice a big pay packet, as he was effectively managing the club, under some of their weaker managers. It doesn't mean he's any less of a racist ******, though.

[Hoppo]

One good thing about signing Terry is you may go full time onto the Clyde forums you absolute Drama Queen.

[ChicagoLion]

I think he could be a positive influence in the dressing room, the other players will be in awe of him.

Our best player is black. Several of our players are black. Why send a message out that we don't care about racism? How is that going to improve dressing room relations?

Football dressing rooms work completely differently to society. Likes of Drogba and Ashley Cole didn't seem to mind much at Chelsea.

If you're winning games regularly players will let pretty much anything pass.

Or maybe they don't consider Terry a racist.

[cdbearsfan]

I think he could be a positive influence in the dressing room, the other players will be in awe of him.

Our best player is black. Several of our players are black. Why send a message out that we don't care about racism? How is that going to improve dressing room relations?

Football dressing rooms work completely differently to society. Likes of Drogba and Ashley Cole didn't seem to mind much at Chelsea.

If you're winning games regularly players will let pretty much anything pass.

Or maybe they don't consider Terry a racist.

They're idiots, then?

[cdbearsfan]

One good thing about signing Terry is you may go full time onto the Clyde forums you absolute Drama Queen.

Sorry, who are you?

[ozzjim]

Ideal scenario for me is still he goes to the shit, is rubbish while contributing to them getting relegated, gets sent off at villa park and generally looks like a bullet dodged.  However you know if you had the sliding door either way it will work out in the wrong way for us as it seems to always do these days.

[ChicagoLion]

I think he could be a positive influence in the dressing room, the other players will be in awe of him.

Our best player is black. Several of our players are black. Why send a message out that we don't care about racism? How is that going to improve dressing room relations?

Football dressing rooms work completely differently to society. Likes of Drogba and Ashley Cole didn't seem to mind much at Chelsea.

If you're winning games regularly players will let pretty much anything pass.

Or maybe they don't consider Terry a racist.

They're idiots, then?

The only incident I know about is the Ferdinand one.
Have thier been other incidents?
By the way I am not defending Terry I think he is a ****.

[cdbearsfan]

Not that I'm aware of. One incident is enough.

[Gareth]

Ideal scenario for me is still he goes to the shit, is rubbish while contributing to them getting relegated, gets sent off at villa park and generally looks like a bullet dodged.  However you know if you had the sliding door either way it will work out in the wrong way for us as it seems to always do these days.

Surely the ideal scenario is that he signs for us, we win the league by 10 points & he goes coaching before we start again in the Premiership.  What happens with them down the road is totally irrelevant

[boozey182]

I want to get promoted and right now I'm not far from selling my soul to get back up. I hate the Championship. I hate what has become of us so bring in "J Fucking T" put some fire and drive back into the club and let's get back up. I will separate the man from the player and for a year in the Championship he'll be more than fine.

See for me, what we would have become if we start relying on people like Terry is far worse than being a very average Championship team. I appreciate that everyone goes down to watch Villa for a variety of reasons; one mine has always been a (perhaps blinkered) view that we are the good guys. Standing up to Nazis, donating shirt sponsorship to charities; that sort of thing. If we were to sign this prick, there is no way I could possibly spin it to make us to be the good guys. It would be like that Mitchell and Webb sketch where the Nazi soldiers realise they have skulls on their uniforms.

I hate the way footballers can act like dicks and suffer virtually no repercussions. There is no way any of us could racially abuse a fellow professional at work and then go on to have the successful career Terry has (there was the abusing American tourists about 9/11 as well, not sure why this gets overlooked). They get away with it, because generally fans and boards don't care as long as they help their team to win. It's so depressing. And there is no way that things will ever improve with so many people actively supporting horrible people. (Don't get me started on the vomit-inducing 26th minute substitution...)

So I won't go and watch Villa if we sign him; my season ticket will go unused. I have been so vocal in my dislike of him (and Suarez, Vardy etc) that I would be faced with the decision to either stop going or becoming a massive hypocrite. I'd much rather we just weren't in for him at all, obviously.

One positive thing could come from this though: if you would get far less enjoyment from watching Villa with John Terry playing for us, then let the club know. They might not care and sign him anyway, but on the off chance we make them reconsider, how great would it be to be the club that told John Terry to "fuck off"? You never know, it might start a trend. The fans could have a bit more power in a game overrun by spoilt dickheads.

John Terry will never be good enough to play for Aston Villa. We should never, ever be that desperate.

[nigel]

Rio Ferdinand was a teammate and quite clearly had a problem training with him. I suspect others have kept their mouths shut rather than sacrifice a big pay packet, as he was effectively managing the club, under some of their weaker managers. It doesn't mean he's any less of a racist c***, though.

Didn't realise it was Rio, I thought it was his brother he had the pop at?

[ozzjim]

Ideal scenario for me is still he goes to the shit, is rubbish while contributing to them getting relegated, gets sent off at villa park and generally looks like a bullet dodged.  However you know if you had the sliding door either way it will work out in the wrong way for us as it seems to always do these days.

Surely the ideal scenario is that he signs for us, we win the league by 10 points & he goes coaching before we start again in the Premiership.  What happens with them down the road is totally irrelevant

Because then John Terry was involved.  And I would sooner he wasn't for us and I could ridicule and loathe him elsewhere!

[cdbearsfan]

Rio Ferdinand was a teammate and quite clearly had a problem training with him. I suspect others have kept their mouths shut rather than sacrifice a big pay packet, as he was effectively managing the club, under some of their weaker managers. It doesn't mean he's any less of a racist c***, though.

Didn't realise it was Rio, I thought it was his brother he had the pop at?

It was his brother that was abused. Rio was Terry's teammate for England and stopped playing for them as a result (if I've remembered it correctly).

[Damo70]

People in glass houses and all that. I wonder how many people have never made a racist comment. Even it it was in jest or just 'banter'. With Louis Suarez I know he was being racist as there is a perfectly acceptable/friendly Spanish phrase for a black guy. But it certainly wasn't the word Suarez used.