Summer transfer madness thread

[tomd2103]

In fairness I think Green and RHM might solve some of our pace issues, we were unlucky to have them out so much this season.

Agree on Ledley but Palace will offer him a new deal you would think?

Now they are staying up they might was upgrades. They'd be mad to let him go for nothing.

Seen him play a lot for Wales and I'm not sure he is what we need really.  He's a similar (but better) type of player to Hourihane really in that he's not a defensive type of midfielder and he's not really an attacking one either.  He plays alongside Joe Allen in a midfield three for Wales with Ramsey just in front of them. 

I do think we need a strong defensive midfielder who is a bit better on the ball than Jedinak, but the more advanced midfield options of Lansbury, Hourihane, Bjarnason, Bacuna along with Tshibola hopefully coming good, might have to be enough. 

[passitsideways]

In fairness I think Green and RHM might solve some of our pace issues, we were unlucky to have them out so much this season.

Agree on Ledley but Palace will offer him a new deal you would think?

Now they are staying up they might was upgrades. They'd be mad to let him go for nothing.

Seen him play a lot for Wales and I'm not sure he is what we need really.  He's a similar (but better) type of player to Hourihane really in that he's not a defensive type of midfielder and he's not really an attacking one either.  He plays alongside Joe Allen in a midfield three for Wales with Ramsey just in front of them. 

I do think we need a strong defensive midfielder who is a bit better on the ball than Jedinak, but the more advanced midfield options of Lansbury, Hourihane, Bjarnason, Bacuna along with Tshibola hopefully coming good, might have to be enough.

That lot really should be well enough for the Championship. Obviously, Bjarnason still has a lot to prove, and Bacuna isn't ideal, to put it lightly, but if he's the fourth-choice CM who can provide some energy, that's acceptable. Suspect we might sell him back to Holland for something under a million though.

[SoccerHQ]

Completely forgotten about Bjarney.

He's another it's fair to say didn't cover himself in glory in his appearances but think he found the pace of the championship a bit of a culture shock.

Expect much better next season as he looked a decent player to me at the euros and did fine for Basle.

[john e]

Completely forgotten about Bjarney.

He's another it's fair to say didn't cover himself in glory in his appearances but think he found the pace of the championship a bit of a culture shock.

Expect much better next season as he looked a decent player to me at the euros and did fine for Basle.

he looked more suitable for a role in 'the Last Kingdom' than in midfield

[mr underhill]

even more cartoonish than Noggin the Nog

[JUAN PABLO]

Can we have Carrick or Barry   as If

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think with 1 millions pounds budget, plus moving on 6-8 players we could possibly afford to buy 2 x 8 million pounds player and maybe 1 4 millions pounds players and get 2 on free and 2 on loans. I think we also need to make our players stronger and tougher to reduce injuries on young players like Green, Davis, and Hepburn Murphy and Hogan.  But it can only happens if we can sell one player for 10 millions or more.

We can't afford to spend 15 millions on one player these days unless we manage to hookwink Liverpool to spend 25 million. Dr Tony Xia might ask one of his friend in superrich Chinese club to spend silly money to get round fair play rules. 

[peter w]

How's Danny Ings injuries now Worth getting him on loan if available? See if Chelsea will loan Loftus-Cheek, try and get Steven Davis back from Southampton, the Burton centre-half, and if they don't go up cairney from Fulham.

[godzvilla]

I think with 1 millions pounds budget, plus moving on 6-8 players we could possibly afford to buy 2 x 8 million pounds player and maybe 1 4 millions pounds players and get 2 on free and 2 on loans. I think we also need to make our players stronger and tougher to reduce injuries on young players like Green, Davis, and Hepburn Murphy and Hogan.  But it can only happens if we can sell one player for 10 millions or more.

We can't afford to spend 15 millions on one player these days unless we manage to hookwink Liverpool to spend 25 million. Dr Tony Xia might ask one of his friend in superrich Chinese club to spend silly money to get round fair play rules. 

When I look at the current squad, realistically, I think we should have the players capable of making a challenge for the top 2 next season. I agree that the addition of 3 maybe 4 very good players would make all the difference, however, they all have to be paid and again we go into 'FFP' territory, so it goes without saying we must get rid of quite a few to make room . Of those 3 or 4 there could be at least one 'Free'  ( Watkins ?, Samba ?) plus a Loaner, which, given the money we should take in ( according to Salsa Party Animal ) should give us more than enough to buy 2 class additions.
Here is our current squad ( 33 incl loanees ) , you would have to pare that down to about 21 in order to do so, I've hi-lited those who I either doubt will be with us, or those who I would prefer to see gone..............Godzvilla!
ASTON VILLA 1st  TEAM SQUAD ( 33 MAN )…….MAY 2017
Goalkeepers            
Jed Steer
Mark Bunn
Matija Sarkic
SamJohnstone
                      Gollini....loan
Defenders            
Nathan Baker
Neil Taylor
Micah Richards
Tommy Elphick
James Chester
James Bree
Alan Hutton
Jordan Amavi
Ritchie de Laet
                      Cissokho...loan
Midfielders         
Henri Lansbury
Leandro Bacuna
Conor Hourihane
Andre Green
Birkir Bjarnason
Gary Gardner
Mile Jedinak
Corey Taylor....should be loaned out to get experience.
Callum O'Hare.....ditto
Albert Adomah
Jordan Lyden
Keinan Davis
Jack Grealish
                    Carles Gil....Loan
                    Aaron Tshibola.....Loan
                    Jordan Verrtout.....Loan
Strikers            
Scott Hogan
Gabriel Agbonlahor
Jonathan Kodjia
Rushian Hepburn-Murphy
                    Ross McCormack......Loan
         

[Dave Cooper please]

They weren't Mansfield Town until 1910.

The answer seems to be Saffron Walden, who added "Town" sometime between their formation in 1872 and their first entry into the FA Cup in 1877.

Then again it could just be Wiki listing them under their current name in error, I can't find out conclusively when they adopted "Town".

If it's not them, it's probably Grimsby, who became "Town" in 1879, one year after their formation.

Brigg Town were formed in 1864 and as far as I know were "Town" from the beginning.

[eddiemunster]

Following on from my previous posts, and posters on here, I thought I'd look at how much the club could save by getting rid of certain bomb squadders;

(I have used FM data for wages per year and loyalty bonuses, based on length of contract)

Bunn  total wages till end of contract (TW)  £ 910 Loyalty bonus (LB) £ 235k
Richards  (TW) £ 5.2m  (LB) £ 1.1m
Elphick    (TW)  £ 2.6m  (LB) £ 350k
Cissokho  (TW) £ 1.248m (LB) £ 525k
Gil             (TW) £ 2.912m  (LB)  £ 650k
Gardner    (TW)  £ 4.056m  (LB) £ 350k
Vertout      (TW) £ 4.368m    (LB) £ 725k
Gabby       (TW) £ 2.86m      (LB) £ 950k
Bacuna      (TW) £ 3.9m        (LB) £ 600k
Amavi        (TW) £4.68m        (LB) £ 900k
Sanchez    (TW) £ 1.924m     (LB) £ 925k
Kozak        (TW) £ 1.3m          (LB) £ 525k

Add to that, the money saved on reserve/academy players already gone, and you come up with;
£ 36.41m in wages saved
£ 7.9m in loyalty bonuses saved.

Before anyone laughs off the above figures, just remember the figures put out for how much the club lost in the last year.

On average paying each of them £ 3.5 million for their time. WTF???

God knows how much Learner spunked up the wall during his tenure based on figures like these eh?

[PaulWinch again]

We do need to utilise RHM and Green, as Ozz says, they can massively help us I think.

[Tayls_7]

We do need to utilise RHM and Green, as Ozz says, they can massively help us I think.

Definitely. We also need a central midfielder who can drive forward with the ball. We are so static at times that not only are we very easy to set up against we're bloody awful to watch. Where would we be without Kodija creating silk purses.

[ozzjim]

We could do with Delph driving us on through midfield. Bloody waste of a career for the last 2 years.

[peter w]

Let's just hope he wants to swap his current situation for a team languishing half -way up the Championship. And one where the fans have been mostly anything but negative towards him.