Summer transfer madness thread

[kippaxvilla2]

The £13m limit for the 2015/16 season is in line with the losses permitted under the new regulations which will permit a maximum loss of £39m (compared to an equivalent figure of £105m in the Premier League) over a rolling three season timeframe measured from March 2017. A club that moves between the Premier League and Championship will be assessed in accordance with the permitted loss in the relevant divisions played in during the three-year period in question. For example, a club that had played two seasons in the Championship and one in the Premier League would have a maximum permitted loss of £61m, consisting of one season at £35m and two at £13m.

[kippaxvilla2]

I'd say this was hastened by the injury to Kodija.  I think we would have cashed in on him this summer to fund transfers.

[VinnieChase84]

I really don't get the concern. We WILL spend money. Just need to clear some out that don't contribute at all currently. All very logical. We will generate £15-£20m in sales and possibly even more of Amavi, Richards, Elphick (QPR offered us £3m for him in Jan)
Loan wise we should use the 4 deals we are allowed. Johnstone, Abraham, Mooy and another. Throw in Watkins from Barnsley on a free to add wide competition.

Further from that, Green will be more involved this season alongside RHM and maybe Beadeau will be involved for centre half competition.
If you look at our squad as things stand, there is no reason why they cannot get us to where we need to be IMO

[Matt C]

We must be able to get 15-20m for Amavi & Vertout alone; we shouldn't be losing money on either.

Use the market sensibly and we've got more than enough to get out of this league.

[KevinGage]

Amavi's valuation will have taken a battering, not being a guaranteed starter for a Championship side is a hard one to explain away.

I could see a scenario where he might end up back in France on loan.

Vetertout did well at St Etienne so a deal there or with another side in the same league looks possible. Gill has done well at Deportivo too. But outside of the very top teams in France and Spain, there isn't a whole pile of money kicking around.  So if deals are done at all, it could be towards the latter stages of the window.

It's absolutely fine to plan on the basis of that lot not being part of the rebuild. But we could be hamstrung if we limit ourselves to incoming deals only after the loan stars and other dross have exited the building.

[aj2k77]

There isn't a cat in hell's chance of getting 15-20m for Amavi and Veretout. Realistically most french clubs don't spend big sums and neither will be going to a Monaco or PSG. We will do well to get close to £10m for the pair.

[PeterWithesShin]

I reckon it will be £10-15m for the pair if we sell them, which in a world where Westwood and Rudy raise £11m isn't too far fetched.

[cheltenhamlion]

Let's say it's ten. Spend that on Sako from Palace and Murphy at Newcastle. We would be much stronger with them alone. Get Irvine from Burton by swapping for a couple of loans if you want another central midfielder. Watkins on a free from Barnsley gives you more wide options. The top Premier League clubs might have a central defender worth loaning. Flint from Bristol City wouldn't cost the earth. Nor would Mooy from Man Citeh or Woods from Brentford as Jedinak cover. De Laet can play centrally and has a throw in like a shell. That should add goals to us. We don't have to spend a shit load of cash to balance the squad. And apparently we are borrowing Johnstone in goal again. Notwithstanding thar Ruddy is on a free.

[kippaxvilla2]

Perhaps Risso could help us out but am I reading the rules correctly above?  In that in the following three seasons we cannot declare more than a consolidated £39m?  This year we will declare a big loss i would have thought meaning we need to balance the books over two seasons?

[ozzjim]

While I see the arguments 're Amavis valuation falling, I think the wider context of rising fees will still see us get 5-6m for Vertout and around 10m for Amavi.  Add in 2 for Elphick, 2.5 for Sanchez, a shotgun for Richards and Gabby etc. Or cash in on Grealish.

[KevinGage]

Let's say it's ten. Spend that on Sako from Palace and Murphy at Newcastle. We would be much stronger with them alone. Get Irvine from Burton by swapping for a couple of loans if you want another central midfielder. Watkins on a free from Barnsley gives you more wide options.

That's assuming we'd get the £10 million relatively early in the window. 

Which will be great for us, but what if clubs aren't smashing the door down on July 1st to land Veretout, Amavi and co. Even the modest talents you have mentioned there could be long gone by mid/late August.

Usually it's the players that have done well for you that other sides will make a beeline for. So if we do any early business at all, it's more likely to be the likes of Chester attracting attention.

[bobcat]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-manchester-united-mourinho-13033075

Looks like the keeper is staying for another year

[oswald funkletrumpet]

We must be able to get 15-20m for Amavi & Vertout alone; we shouldn't be losing money on either.

Use the market sensibly and we've got more than enough to get out of this league.

Nurse!

[SoccerHQ]

Meanwhile, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool spent a combined £70m between 2nd Feb 2016 and 31st Jan 2017. Just on agents fees.

Anything goes in the premier league I'm afraid.

Get back up there again and we can start spending silly money again on rubbish players.

[SoccerHQ]

I'm surprised people were seemingly expecting Xia to donate 60m every season we remain outside the premier league.

Say we lose play off final this time next year....would people then expect yet another 60m war chest for whoever the manager would be then? Of course not as parachute payments would be running dangerously low and our wage bill would be off the scale.

I thought Xia would scale back his investment in season 3 if we weren't premier league by then but looks like it's happening a year earlier as it seems FFP has been tightened when in the past Leicester and Bournemouth have made fun of it at this level.

We just need promotion. It shows what a mess we've made of this season that people actually assume you need to spend 50m to get promotion from this league, you really don't as evidence by all the teams who've been promoted from this level through the years who aren't called Newcastle.

Sadly things like belief and never say die attitude in games we cast aside as unimportant when it is those traits that can win you plenty of games at this level.

I still think we have a decent spine, Chester-Jedinak-Kodjia. Top centre half for this level, 20 goal a season striker and DM who divides opinion but simple factor is our record is always better with him in the team so he plays 40 games next season and I imagine our record will look decent.

We need to add of course but as others have said you can do that with loans quite easily.