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Offline Gareth

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #375 on: May 14, 2017, 01:40:42 AM »
Football is always a business when times are hard. We will run our club as business, meanwhile.our competitors stride ahead.

Good.luck with competing with Boro, Hull and Sunderland for players while we run our business and wait on selling garbage l, if we can, before we buy somebody.

1. If over the entire transfer window we spend what we should be able to generate in fees in we should damn well expect to be in the top 6.

2. yes, it is a business that should be run properly.

3. I'll take my risk competing with Boro, Hull & Sunderland for players because in the real world it's balancing books not selling to buy....you can't honestly believe that Wyness & co will be sat waiting for cheques to clear??

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #376 on: May 14, 2017, 07:23:26 AM »
The article states we have to reassess the plans. If we're waiting on selling a load of tat then clubs with money will.pick the cream and we will be left gubbing around.

We tried this nonsense in the big boys league. I don't need to say more as to how well that turned out.

Yes, we cannot retain a load of none contributing rubbish, but why do we care about a possible sanction that may take place at the end of the season after next? We're not going to he here- unless we stop investing in the squad.

Welcome to 2nd Division obscurity. So much for the Doctor being a gazillionnaire.

No spinning can make this news look anything other than awful.

It quite clearly states that this is due to FFP so I don't know how you've made a connection to Xia's wealth. I'd obviously not want this restriction but I reckon we can raise some sales (tho not sure it will be 20-25m). Maybe:

Sanchez 2.5
Veretout 3.5
Gil 2.5
Amavi 5
Elphick won't raise much
Tshibola 2-3
McCormack probably will have to go on loan - what chairman would sanction that purchase given what we now know?

My main criticism is that this was entirely foreseeable - so quite what we were doing spending 13 on hogan is a big question. I wonder if extra kodjia and hogan payments will be triggered and need to be accommodated within spending plans

But overall, I always though we needed 3-4 signings and to focus on coaching. If we can use the loan
market well we don't need to sign too many more

I think it should be possible to get promoted within that framework. But we'd be looking horribly short with basically the current squad in the premier league


Offline myf

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #377 on: May 14, 2017, 07:35:59 AM »
Basically another disaster of a season. We're sure to have made huge losses again this year so it's not going to be pretty in 2 years time

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #378 on: May 14, 2017, 07:58:26 AM »
My point is that we're concerned about a sanction that ought to never effect us if the intention is to go up automatically this season. If Xia is as wealthy as he says and willing to fund £17 million for McCormack and Tshibola, to offer very little, then why is there concern for a fine?

I am not against trimming fat from the squad, but that this is the objective rather than going out and getting the three-five we want will affect our promotion chances.

It's all well and good putting an arbitrary price tag next to a player, it doesn't mean there's any interest out there to purchase them.

This article to me suggests we're less likely to be promoted. We will not be competing with the relegated clubs in the transfer market and we will struggle to compete with many of the others if our spending is reliant on shifting a list of players who've contributed nothing to us. Given the large wages we festooned on them, it would seem likely that we will be needing to pay up contracts too.

The chances of us being in the 2nd Division again in 2018/19 will increase because of such a disastrous approach.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2017, 08:00:19 AM by Ads »

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #379 on: May 14, 2017, 08:04:24 AM »
This is pretty ominous news, if true, because that implies that we don't have a lot of confidence that we'll be going up any time soon. Think it also makes it a lot more likely that we'll flog Kod.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #380 on: May 14, 2017, 08:05:07 AM »
It would appear to be true given the Doctor's tweets.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #381 on: May 14, 2017, 08:05:42 AM »
If it is true, it's even more important that we have a manager who can coach.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #382 on: May 14, 2017, 08:09:03 AM »
It would appear to be true given the Doctor's tweets.

What's he said?

Offline Hoppo

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #383 on: May 14, 2017, 08:14:17 AM »
The Dr has confirmed everything this morning.
The reason their is a concern is that the new rules mean that they can ban you getting promoted if you exceed FFP.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #384 on: May 14, 2017, 08:15:18 AM »
Dr. Tony Xia‏Verified account
@Dr_TonyXia

We need well prepared for the FFP as we inherited heavy burdens.If we get more ins but can't succeed in outs, we'll have headache with FFP.

Even not bothered by FFP issues, we won't burn money 2try getting success. We need build sustainable model &have2learn 2be smarter anyway.

We only need strength in 2/3 positions, so it is nothing2worry about. Need change the culture 'getting xx' but building consistency!#UTV

Bottom line is that we won't have panic buys or sells any more! #PlannedSystem

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #385 on: May 14, 2017, 08:17:55 AM »
In the past it was only ever a fine, now it can be a points deduction or denied promotion even if you win the division.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #386 on: May 14, 2017, 08:18:11 AM »
We're probably in quite a lot of trouble then.

Offline The_ads

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #387 on: May 14, 2017, 08:21:28 AM »
Someone tell me how much Brighton invested then to get promoted??? I'll wait

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #388 on: May 14, 2017, 08:23:21 AM »
Didn't we know this anyway?
Wasn't it pointed out that if you have a new owner, you could spend heavily, although that was only permitted for 1 season under FPP?

I'm sure this was discussed on here and elsewhere at the time.

With the money we have spent, and the squad we have assembled, this 'shouldn't' really be a major issue for us.
We can't buy another team AGAIN, this summer.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2017, 08:25:18 AM by andyh »

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #389 on: May 14, 2017, 08:33:15 AM »
Agreed AndyH

 


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