Summer transfer madness thread

[Steve67]

I guess we should only judge him once he's got his own squad of players.

Never understood this statement.  A decent manager should not have to rip up a squad when he comes in.  Granted there will be a few replacements by virtue of the fact that the team is probably not doing very well when a new manager is brought in.  If a manager doesn't generally suit the majority of the players already at the club, he is the wrong choice as manager.

Yes we should not wait till he has "his own squad". A Manager is selected by a business to manage it's resources and assets and yield the best results out of those and by adding a few changes. A Manager is not hired to start a new business and scrapping the old one. 

Easy boys. Unfortunately, it looks like Bruce will be staying. Against my wishes, so the club now have little choice but to back him with his own squad of players. I don't like it either, as I can't trust him not to coach them properly, however, he has a ready made excuse in that some of them are shit, some of them are NOT his players, therefore, he HAS to be backed and will only get sacked when he's got his own squad, in readiness to get sacked and start the whole shebang again.

[itbrvilla]

Well that's fucking suicide. He's shown us fuck all. We can forget being a big club again if that's the case.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Bruce isn't going to be the long-term manager - if we're not in the Promotion race at Christmas, he'll be gone.
If we don't get promotion, he'll be gone.
If we get promotion, we'll struggle in the Premier League, and he'll be gone.

I can't envisage the other option - that he'll get us promoted and we'll be a comfortable mid table or better Premier League team.

[tomd2103]

Gardner just signed a contract though God knows why we offered that

Agree with the list above. Have pretty much given up on amavi

In all fairness, it was probably with the view (like Westwood) that when he does go (hopefully this summer) we'll get somewhat of a fee for him. 

[tomd2103]

Getting players out will be just as important this summer as bringing some in.  Far too many who are no real use in terms of playing and need to go.  As the past few years have shown, it is harder said than done, but effort has to be made to move them on. 

I think Bruce has really got to decide on how he wants to play and buy accordingly.  With Baker at the back and Jedinak in midfield, we are never going to be a build from the back side, so if they are part of the plan going forward, we desperately need a physical striker who can hold the ball up.  I think having that kind of striker would make a difference.  Jedinak is a bit of a problem in that his international commitments have proved a burden and as a result, we've missed a key player or he's not been quite right on quite a few occasions.  Midfield as a whole remains a problem and Bruce simply has to get more attacking threat from Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason. 

[pbavfckuwait]

I wrote it on the Bruce out page, Dean Saunders was quoted on Talkshite as saying
Bruce likes his defenders who can tackle, head the ball away and really enjoy defending,nothing else, then he gets a couple of forwards and that's it, I know I played for him.
Which I think how he has mismanaged the midfield that has been in place this season means we can probably look forward to his son, Dawson and any 6ft 6 centre forward that comes on the market, he is not going to change his mantra now, god help us.

[Hookeysmith]

Definite move ons

Bacuna - I like his versatility but after yesterdays petulance he has to go
Gabby
Bunn
Richards
Elphick - truly awful
Hutton - forget the faux cult status - awful footballer
Amavi
Gil
Sanchez
Tsibola
Adomah - no pace / no tackle / cant head / poor final ball - there are lengthy periods in the game I actually forget he is playing


Not bothered if they stay or not

Jedinak - only keep to close games out - not as a starter
McCormack - would actually give him a chance
Kodjia - we played more fluidly yesterday with a kid up top!
Johnstone
Veretout - would like to give him a chance as think he has great potential
Hogan - I fear he is being let down by Bruce not playing him correctly

[eamonn]

Did Richards even play for the U23's/Reserves in the last few months when apparently he was back fit? Beggars belief that he's spend 9 months doing naff-all and is probably our highest paid player. At least Gabby was busting a gut to atone for his cardinal sins of the past.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Adomah isn't amazing, but he's second in the Championship for assists - 10. The only one who got more assists was (not for us) Hourihane.

[cdbearsfan]

I'd like to give Gil a go in this division. We can always sell or loan him at the end of August if he doesn't look any good.

[passitsideways]

I'd like to give Gil a go in this division. We can always sell or loan him at the end of August if he doesn't look any good.

I just can't think of a position where he'd be particularly effective in the current setup, and we're not going to fiddle around the setup just to get him in the lineup as a no. 10 - he's not good enough to warrant that. Meanwhile, he's inferior compared to Adomah and likely Green as well as an out-and-out winger; and there's no evidence he can be a central midfielder who springs forward; nor as a second striker type who can play off/together with Kodjia.

I wish it would've worked out, but given the struggles we've had trying to get a tune out of Jack, it'd only be worse with Gil.

[cdbearsfan]

We spent fifteen million on a centre forward who is supposed to be lethal in the air. We need wingers. Green, Adomah, Grealish and Gil would provide a good mix and give us options to bring on a dangerous player or two against tiring legs.

[passitsideways]

He's not really a winger in the whips-crosses-in sense though, isn't he? More of a guy who cuts in and plays quick one-twos, rather than someone who stretches the field. Certainly, I don't seem to remember too many brilliant deliveries into the box, even in that initial period after signing for us.

[mr underhill]

he wants out and the last thing we need are disaffected players constantly bleating and moaning. The real worry about him and Veretout, is that their loan clubs haven't got a pot to piss in to buy them - Sanchez might be the exception.

[LeeB]

he wants out and the last thing we need are disaffected players constantly bleating and moaning. The real worry about him and Veretout, is that their loan clubs haven't got a pot to piss in to buy them - Sanchez might be the exception.

You'd be right on the last one as he's already gone.