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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #105 on: March 12, 2017, 12:13:30 PM »
If we'd have wanted him, we'd have got him.

He was massively unimpressive.

Put it this way. Boro can't score any goals but still thought Rudy Gestede was a better bet at Premier League level. Hogan looks a much better prospect.

I agree about Hogan. I'd be more disappointed to lose him than Kodjia.
We would be near to relegation without Kodjas 15 goals.So I don't really understand your logic.

That's not my point. I think Hogan will develop to be a better striker than Kodjia, so if we were to lose one out of the two of them, and no-one is saying that we will, I'd prefer to keep Hogan.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #106 on: March 12, 2017, 12:21:06 PM »
Think you're right about Hogan. 14 goals in 25 games for Brentford this season before he came to us. Just need to find how to play to his strengths.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #107 on: March 12, 2017, 12:44:45 PM »
If we'd have wanted him, we'd have got him.

He was massively unimpressive.

Put it this way. Boro can't score any goals but still thought Rudy Gestede was a better bet at Premier League level. Hogan looks a much better prospect.

I agree about Hogan. I'd be more disappointed to lose him than Kodjia.


I think Hogan will be much better for us than McCormack but he just strikes me as a finisher from what I saw in the Barnsley game and we're not great at creating huge amount of chances yet.

I prefer forwards who can create chances for themselves and Kodjia is great at that so I'd continue with him upfront on his own.

Kodjia has certainly settled a bit more in the lone striker role over the last few weeks.  He does look better when paired with another striker though. 

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #108 on: March 12, 2017, 01:31:02 PM »
I've always thought there was a good player in Amavi somewhere but I must confess i'm now beginning to wonder if he is just a championship player...Just an average one.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #109 on: March 12, 2017, 02:52:08 PM »
Good win and starting to see some stability.  Sometimes injuries push you in a way you would not go by choice.  You sometimes stumble on an effective team.

We need to push on now and not settle for mid table.  Start picking off the teams one by one above us and we could have a strong team by the end of the season.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #110 on: March 12, 2017, 03:22:08 PM »
I've always thought there was a good player in Amavi somewhere but I must confess i'm now beginning to wonder if he is just a championship player...Just an average one.

£25 begins to sound tempting.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #111 on: March 12, 2017, 03:48:55 PM »
Think you're right about Hogan. 14 goals in 25 games for Brentford this season before he came to us. Just need to find how to play to his strengths.
I guess it's early days & he didn't come into a team that was anything like settled, but Hogan looks bang average to me. I hope he proves me wrong.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #112 on: March 12, 2017, 03:57:48 PM »
Outside of honest graft, it's difficult to see why Weds and Huddersfield are so high up the table, it's also bloody annoying.

Organisation, teamwork, tactics, strategy and bondage up moors in pre season are just a few elements beyond the scope of the term honest graft so it really isn't that difficult to understand.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #113 on: March 12, 2017, 04:19:34 PM »
I think Kodjia is more saleable than Hogan.  Flashier and more high profile, not necessarily better.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #114 on: March 12, 2017, 04:26:23 PM »
I don't want us to sell either of them, but Kodija yesterday was a constant menace, regardless of the goals he scored. Ask any Championship defender who they would hate playing against, surely it has to be JK.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #115 on: March 12, 2017, 04:36:37 PM »
I think Kodjia is more saleable than Hogan.  Flashier and more high profile, not necessarily better.
Yes that's true. There is lot of stuff I don't like about Kodjia but he is doing what's required. Not sure how Hogan fits in the team with Kodjia but if Bruce can figure that out and we can get around 20 goals  each from both there is no stopping is next season.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #116 on: March 12, 2017, 05:12:16 PM »
Can any of you who were at the game tell me what sort of size was the Wednesday defender that was supposed to be marking Kodjia for his first goal?  The reason I ask is, Kodjia seemed to be head and shoulders above him to win that header with what seemed like consummate ease and, if the defender was six foot plus then it makes the goal even better.   

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #117 on: March 12, 2017, 05:20:52 PM »
I have to say that watching a few highlights and fan;s views has confirmed something that I've thought for a while. We really do have the ugliest fans in the world.
This is an extract from Peter's forthcoming book 'How To Make Friends And Influence People 2.'

Chapter 3 - 5 star Military Generals

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #118 on: March 12, 2017, 05:59:14 PM »
Outside of honest graft, it's difficult to see why Weds and Huddersfield are so high up the table, it's also bloody annoying.

Organisation, teamwork, tactics, strategy and bondage up moors in pre season are just a few elements beyond the scope of the term honest graft so it really isn't that difficult to understand.

Well yes, all the things we should have as a matter of course, then on top of that the big money talent should come into its own. That we haven't had all the things you detailed, when we have the biggest wage bill in th league, is annoying.

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Re: Victorious Aston Villa 2-0 Sheff Wednesday
« Reply #119 on: March 12, 2017, 05:59:56 PM »
If we'd have wanted him, we'd have got him.

He was massively unimpressive.

Put it this way. Boro can't score any goals but still thought Rudy Gestede was a better bet at Premier League level. Hogan looks a much better prospect.

I agree about Hogan. I'd be more disappointed to lose him than Kodjia.


I think Hogan will be much better for us than McCormack but he just strikes me as a finisher from what I saw in the Barnsley game and we're not great at creating huge amount of chances yet.

I prefer forwards who can create chances for themselves and Kodjia is great at that so I'd continue with him upfront on his own.

Kodjia has certainly settled a bit more in the lone striker role over the last few weeks.  He does look better when paired with another striker though. 

Does he?

From what I saw v Brentford him and Hogan were getting in each others way....was it much better v Ipswich?

I suppose they need time to get an understanding, pre season should sort it.

 


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