Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[brian green]

It has already dissipated in me.  The writing is on the wall.

[auntiesledd]

Disappointing news to wake up to, but possibly a sensible decision from the new guys.

Let's see if Bruce can wake up and introduce exciting tactics.

Hopefully he'll be off down Bookers this morning then - & buy out their stock of 'Fruit Adventure'

[Chris Smith]

Immediately after the play off final I thought it was time for a change but that was before the subsequent problems became known. Bruce staying is now the pragmatic if uninspiring choice. It does not make any sense for a new board to make such a fundamental decision without any structure in place to assist in the process and to support the replacement. He is fortunate to still be here but it is though absolutely his last chance, something I am sure he is fully aware of.

Those still talking about sacking him appear to me akin to Jacob Rees-Mogg, so wedded to one single idea that they are unable, or unwilling, to see the bigger picture. Sacking Bruce now would be the equivalent of a no deal Brexit.

[rogfromb6]

There is nothing far sighted about sacking a manager 12 days before the start of the season and replacing him with a novice who has zero managerial experience.

If the purchase had taken place in June then I suspect Bruce would already be gone and if we start the season like last season then he'll be gone before the clocks go back. If he doesn't deliver then he knows what the consequences will be.

If the only alternative was appointing Henry then to me it was a no brainer to stick with Bruce.  The owners can start putting in the place the required structures to implement the changes needed and at the same time they can think about plausible alternatives should Bruce fluff his lines again.

[AV82EC]

Immediately after the play off final I thought it was time for a change but that was before the subsequent problems became known. Bruce staying is now the pragmatic if uninspiring choice. It does not make any sense for a new board to make such a fundamental decision without any structure in place to assist in the process and to support the replacement. He is fortunate to still be here but I t is though absolutely his last chance, something I am sure he is fully aware of.

Those still banging on about sacking him appear to me akin to Jacob Rees-Mogg, so wedded to one single idea that they are unable, or unwilling, to see the bigger picture. Sacking Bruce now would be the equivalent of a no deal Brexit.

I’m with Chris on this despite desperately not wanting to be. Football is my escape from the humdrum day to day and you want to feel excited about going to VP but if we’ve got to suck up some pragmatism for the time being so be it.

[Clampy]

Immediately after the play off final I thought it was time for a change but that was before the subsequent problems became known. Bruce staying is now the pragmatic if uninspiring choice. It does not make any sense for a new board to make such a fundamental decision without any structure in place to assist in the process and to support the replacement. He is fortunate to still be here but it is though absolutely his last chance, something I am sure he is fully aware of.
 

That's totally where I am. I thought exactly the same after the final but I think, for now anyway that this is the best approach. The idea of a new manager with fresh ideas did appeal but the timing was against it to be honest.

[Dazvillain]

The thing with Bruce is that you know he only plans for one season.  It may be good for him but it is no good for the club.

Once the CEO and Head of Football (and we do need one) are in place, I hope they start planning for life after Bruce straight away.

Thought I’d read that Sawiris was doing the ceo day to day stuff in one article ?

[Drummond]

Henry is a big fan of NBA. I wonder if there is a connection there.

Again Dave woods is your man ?! 

Any chance you could stop going on about Dave fucking Woods in every single fucking post? Fuckng hell.

That's a bit harsh grumpy pants.

Anyway, Dave Woods would say that Henry had agreed a deal and we'll likely never know whether he had or not.

[andyh]

Keeping him, for now, is the pragmatic approach.

My biggest hope now (other than keeping hold of Jack and Chester) is that we quickly appoint a CEO that understands football and keeps the pressure firmly on Bruce to deliver.
He should prepared to make the right decision for the club at appropriate time, should we not be ‘there or thereabouts’ by the time the leaves start falling.

[brian green]

As Mr Woodhall once said to me.  We shall see.  And I resent being compared to Jacob Rees-Mogg because I am in favour of far sightedness. 

[Drummond]

This is a pragmatic decision in the circumstances.

I'm not particularly happy as I know we need a change in ethos but having only just bought the club, NSWE need to properly assess things. We won't lose promotion in August (though like last season we could make it fucking hard for ourselves) but it will give the owners time to assess, sort out a CEO and look at the fabric of the club.

[Ads]

Unbelievably bad decision.   The best chance we have had in the post Ellis era to do something far sighted and usher in the root and branch change that is needed at Villa Park and they bottled it.

I will do what I said I would do and see the first few games on my season ticket.  If it is more of the same from Bruce then I am walking away until, if ever, the club comes to its senses.  Another season of pain looms large.

But if you don't have the knowledge to make a far sighted decsion, and Henry clearly wasn't a smart alternative, then you bide your time and either learn yourself or bring in knowledge to assist.

[john e]

in fairness to the owners they have only just taken over they havent seen the last two seasons like we have
they probably just hear the 'one match away from the prem' stuff and think tha'ts pretty good

they have yet not seen the poor football, the no ideas on tactics, the incredibly bad purchases of players, the loss making values on most if not all the Bruce buy ins, the premier league wages payed for average championship players, the lame excuses, the negative line ups, the playing of old players rather than giving a young one a go, and most importantly building nothing sustainable no stability whatsoever in the team going forward

all these things and more they have not seen yet
and then there are many Villa fans who have seen them and still want him so 'what ya gona do' as Tony S would say
 
so it all depends on how good they really are in the near future when all those things are there for them to see

i have great hopes for this new team of owners,
 i'm not giving up on them just because they didn't act quickly to remove one of the root causes of the current Villa rot,

like many have said and i agree it was always going to be difficult this close to the seasons start

keep the faith

[GarTomas]

Unbelievably bad decision.   The best chance we have had in the post Ellis era to do something far sighted and usher in the root and branch change that is needed at Villa Park and they bottled it.

I will do what I said I would do and see the first few games on my season ticket.  If it is more of the same from Bruce then I am walking away until, if ever, the club comes to its senses.  Another season of pain looms large.

Bottled it is entirely the right decision. I predict it won’t take many games and excuses from Mr Thereabouts before the feel good factor starts to dissipate.

I don’t see that we would get a worse manager in 2-3 months than we would now to be honest.

If Bruce surprises us and we’re challenging then great. If not then a change is made.

Maybe a frustrating start to the season but a change this late was never really likely.

[Ads]

Chris nails it for me. I wanted him gone, but circumstances dictate and ought to dictate rather than dogma.