Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[VinnieChase84]

John terry back as player manager if Bruce leaves next week.
It’s in line with Xia’s statement of a new philosophy/approach

While i wouldn't disagree i don't think he'd take it. He was highly complimentary to Bruce when he left and i think he wouldn't take it out of respect for him.

Terry would take it in a heart beat. I can see the league/sky’s build up of Terry v Lampard in the management stakes build up

[sickbeggar]

well we'll see. You think by now the club or Bruce would have clarified his position. The silence is deafening.

[Sexual Ealing]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/09/aston-villa-face-turmoil-prospect-another-45m-bill/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

If Percy is in any way correct in the above piece, imagine being a Leeds fan and reading that you're aiming for Bielsa, but if that fails then Bruce is the man.

[pauliewalnuts]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/09/aston-villa-face-turmoil-prospect-another-45m-bill/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

If Percy is in any way correct in the above piece, imagine being a Leeds fan and reading that you're aiming for Bielsa, but if that fails then Bruce is the man.

"I'm hoping to bed Selma Hayek, but failing that, I'll be getting a nosh round the back of KFC from Sonia off Eastenders"

[PeterWithesShin]

How could any club be that stupid, it would be like going for Martinez and ending up with McLeish and no one is that fecking daft.

[ChicagoLion]

How could any club be that stupid, it would be like going for Martinez and ending up with McLeish and no one is that fecking daft.

Yes a bit  like going from Houlier to McLeish, who could be that fecking daft?

[robleflaneur]

The way we have been run the last 8 years has made me wonder if Mike Ashley doesn't have the right idea after all.  He may come across as tight or unambitious and I've always thought of him a an owner from hell, but at least Newcastle can pay their tax bills on time.

Relegated twice and it would have been a third time but fortunately had Benitez,after spending the sq.root of f.all on 50000 gates and Premiership money.

[SoccerHQ]

List of Leeds Managers since 2007

Dennis Wise
Gary Mac
Simon Grayson
Neil Redfern
Neil Warnock (didn't actually get them close to top 6 in his 18 months there)
Brian McDermott
David Hockaday
Darko Milanic
Uwe Rosler
Steve Evans
Gary Monk
Thomas Christensen
Paul Heckinbottom

SB is Guardiola compared to some of those!

[Sexual Ealing]

The comparison is with Bielsa, not Hockaday (which was a decent enough programme if not for that wanker Timmy Mallett).

[ktvillan]

The way we have been run the last 8 years has made me wonder if Mike Ashley doesn't have the right idea after all.  He may come across as tight or unambitious and I've always thought of him a an owner from hell, but at least Newcastle can pay their tax bills on time.

Relegated twice and it would have been a third time but fortunately had Benitez,after spending the sq.root of f.all on 50000 gates and Premiership money.

I wasn't actually advocating Ashley as a good owner, because his oversight has led to two relegations.  On the other hand, despite his dickheadedness, they've bounced straight back both times, they have Benitez, and they can pay their tax bills.   In comparison it doesn't reflect well on our lot does it?

[robleflaneur]

In that case you can only be 2 years old.
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I'm 48 and the club has never been in this much of a mess before in my time, i'd guess the only other time in our history was the late 60s.
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It was worse in the 60s and the 3rd division days.Then the away team was entitled to part of the near 30,000 gate at VP. PreBosman,clubs would get a fee if a player moved.
Nowadays,the advantages have gone to the bigger clubs who can afford to pay higher wages..Membership of the Premier League is the big cash cow.
Smaller clubs such as Barnsley,Bradford,Bolton,Burnley,Bournemouth,,Blackpool,Charlton,Reading,Millwall and Huddersfield have got there and often stayed up but when the decline comes ,perhaps because the manager moves for more money,then often the decline is often longer and sometimes deeper than a bigger club.
Would you choose to invest your millions in Barnsley,Bradford,Blackpool or Villa,Leeds or Sunderland. and even SHA who had been in the Prem with Bruce and TSM.
Would you bet on Burnley,Bournemouth and Huddersfield without Dyche,Howe and Wagner to be above Villa,Leeds or Sunderland in 5 years time ?
And that's the important proviso,without their present managers.
That's the difference a good manager can make ,whereas Villa,Leeds and Sunderland haven't found one or settled on one.

[Toronto Villa]

If Bielsa went there he'll be gone in 6 months with the nonsense that goes on behind the scenes there. Also, this isn't anymore the Bielsa of the 90's. He's jumped around quite a bit and hasn't exactly torn it up anywhere he's been of late. He walked out on Lazio and was suspended at Lille after 13 games. Now the one thing I do like is that at Lille he demanded a youthful side so he told many of the experienced to pack their bags. We could do with a bit of that.

[robleflaneur]

If Bielsa went there he'll be gone in 6 months with the nonsense that goes on behind the scenes there. Also, this isn't anymore the Bielsa of the 90's. He's jumped around quite a bit and hasn't exactly torn it up anywhere he's been of late. He walked out on Lazio and was suspended at Lille after 13 games. Now the one thing I do like is that at Lille he demanded a youthful side so he told many of the experienced to pack their bags. We could do with a bit of that.

The only advantage with Bielsa now,is that his disciple Pep might lend you a few young players.Otherwise,I think he's past his sell by date,a Saunders of the late 80s, Clough in his alcoholic haze of the 90s,Venables in the 2000s.
His Argentina of 2002 failed to get past Sven's Ingerrland.
A brief last hurrah with Athletic Bilbao and then nothing since.

[SoccerHQ]

The comparison is with Bielsa, not Hockaday (which was a decent enough programme if not for that wanker Timmy Mallett).

Feels like things have gone cold with that link. Bielsa's time at Lille was a disaster so he's not really a banker bet as a manager, could easily go wrong given the way he manages.

[SoccerHQ]

If Bielsa went there he'll be gone in 6 months with the nonsense that goes on behind the scenes there. Also, this isn't anymore the Bielsa of the 90's. He's jumped around quite a bit and hasn't exactly torn it up anywhere he's been of late. He walked out on Lazio and was suspended at Lille after 13 games. Now the one thing I do like is that at Lille he demanded a youthful side so he told many of the experienced to pack their bags. We could do with a bit of that.

The only advantage with Bielsa now,is that his disciple Pep might lend you a few young players.Otherwise,I think he's past his sell by date,a Saunders of the late 80s, Clough in his alcoholic haze of the 90s,Venables in the 2000s.
His Argentina of 2002 failed to get past Sven's Ingerrland.
A brief last hurrah with Athletic Bilbao and then nothing since.

He produced a really good Marseille team in 14/15 I think.

He is a manager though that needs board to agree to his conditions particularly the squad. If they don't he simply dosen't hang around.