Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[stuart445]

Pretty amazing anyone could think that sacking the manager now is either a. desirable or b. within the realms of possibility.

I am far from convinced by Bruce, but whilst in a play off position, with five games of the regular season to go, sacking the manager?

That's the sort of thing shitty plastic clubs like Crystal Palace do.

I don’t think that we’ll realistically sack Bruce before the season ends.  He’s done a shit job with the resources at his disposal however, and it’s very easy to want to vent at his failure. We should be easily top two.

His target is Promotion.   We are in the play off places which if we win will result in Promotion which would mean he has successfully reached his target.  But yet you state Bruce has failed. 

That is the strangest failure I have ever heard of where you've reached your set target but have failed.

Can we please not declare failure until he has actually failed to reach his target of Promotion

[Fred Crump]

Neither do I really think it is realistic to sack him immediately now the wine and the anger and disappointment have worn off. But nice guy as he undoubtedly is , the realities of FFP mean that we will have to say thanks for steadying the ship but off you go now, if we lose in the playoffs. We will have to build for the future , long term , along the model of Bournemouth/ Eddie Howe by identifying the talent amongst our own youngsters and picking up some other well known gems and then playing in a recognisable, modern, attractive style. It's the only feasible way of doing it now the experienced player and manager shit or bust strategy seem to have blown up.

[Fred Crump]

Previous post edited to remove typos. More typos now I'm sober than when I'd had a few lol!

[rob_bridge]

Neither do I really think it is realistic to sack him immediately now the wine and the anger and disappointment have worn off. But nice guy as he undoubtedly is , the realities of FFP mean that we will have to say thanks for steadying the ship but off you go now, if we lose in the playoffs. We will have to build for the future , long term , along the model of Bournemouth/ Eddie Howe by identifying the talent amongst our own youngsters and picking up some other well known gems and then playing in a recognisable, modern, attractive style. It's the only feasible way of doing it now the experienced player and manager shit or bust stategy seem to have blown up.

Indeed necessity will force us down that route if we are not promoted. We just have to accept it may take another 3 or 4 seasons but once promoted be in a better position to maintain a mid table position, with some good fucking football thrown in.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Pretty amazing anyone could think that sacking the manager now is either a. desirable or b. within the realms of possibility.

I am far from convinced by Bruce, but whilst in a play off position, with five games of the regular season to go, sacking the manager?

That's the sort of thing shitty plastic clubs like Crystal Palace do.

On the other hand you have to ask yourself a. does he look like he can change things around and b. would anybody else do any worse?

It's Catch 22 for me. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. What a mess.

[VinnieChase84]

Wanted Dean Smith for a long time and nothing has changed my thoughts on this. Build a side next season based on attacking football. Players like O’Hare, Green, RHM would thrive under a manager like Smith.

[Steve67]

Pretty amazing anyone could think that sacking the manager now is either a. desirable or b. within the realms of possibility.

I am far from convinced by Bruce, but whilst in a play off position, with five games of the regular season to go, sacking the manager?

That's the sort of thing shitty plastic clubs like Crystal Palace do.

I don’t think that we’ll realistically sack Bruce before the season ends.  He’s done a shit job with the resources at his disposal however, and it’s very easy to want to vent at his failure. We should be easily top two.

His target is Promotion.   We are in the play off places which if we win will result in Promotion which would mean he has successfully reached his target.  But yet you state Bruce has failed. 

That is the strangest failure I have ever heard of where you've reached your set target but have failed.

Can we please not declare failure until he has actually failed to reach his target of Promotion

Equally, can we not declare him a success until he delivers that promotion via the play offs? No target has yet been achieved, not will five games to go.

[Ads]

It's not about Bruce it's about us and where we want to go.

If he gets us up, grand, but he isn't what's needed for the next step and sentimentalism isn't a requirement either.

[pauliewalnuts]

Pretty amazing anyone could think that sacking the manager now is either a. desirable or b. within the realms of possibility.

I am far from convinced by Bruce, but whilst in a play off position, with five games of the regular season to go, sacking the manager?

That's the sort of thing shitty plastic clubs like Crystal Palace do.

On the other hand you have to ask yourself a. does he look like he can change things around and b. would anybody else do any worse?

It's Catch 22 for me. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. What a mess.

Anyone else would have to be recruited, installed, familiarised with the set up, get his own team in, get them up to speed, and get better results than the incumbent manager all in the space of five matches.

Not a prayer.

[Lastfootstamper]

Neither do I really think it is realistic to sack him immediately now the wine and the anger and disappointment have worn off. But nice guy as he undoubtedly is , the realities of FFP mean that we will have to say thanks for steadying the ship but off you go now, if we lose in the playoffs. We will have to build for the future , long term , along the model of Bournemouth/ Eddie Howe by identifying the talent amongst our own youngsters and picking up some other well known gems and then playing in a recognisable, modern, attractive style. It's the only feasible way of doing it now the experienced player and manager shit or bust stategy seem to have blown up.

Indeed necessity will force us down that route if we are not promoted. We just have to accept it may take another 3 or 4 seasons but once promoted be in a better position to maintain a mid table position, with some good fucking football thrown in.

Why accept another 3 or 4, why not 7 or 8? 9? 10? Why assume that there's a correlation between spending longer in this fetid pit and being in a better position once we do escape? I'd say having a backer in place who's prepared to bankroll investment once we've arrived is of greater relevance and something we should take advantage of asap, as opposed to trying his patience while we fuck around down here for the foreseeable.

Edit: before we do turn into fucking Leeds.

[Iamkmkm]

Bring in Thomas Tuchel

Tough choice between us and PSG.

Who wanna live in Paris? It's a shithole

[Ads]

Pretty amazing anyone could think that sacking the manager now is either a. desirable or b. within the realms of possibility.

I am far from convinced by Bruce, but whilst in a play off position, with five games of the regular season to go, sacking the manager?

That's the sort of thing shitty plastic clubs like Crystal Palace do.

On the other hand you have to ask yourself a. does he look like he can change things around and b. would anybody else do any worse?

It's Catch 22 for me. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. What a mess.

Anyone else would have to be recruited, installed, familiarised with the set up, get his own team in, get them up to speed, and get better results than the incumbent manager all in the space of five matches.

Not a prayer.

Got to agree. It would be insane to get rid now.

[VinnieChase84]

Any talk of him going before the season ends is utterly delusional. It’s fairky a common theme where we all stand on Bruce. We just need to park this until end of May (if not sooner) and cross those bridges when we need to. I’m still crossing everything I’ve got that we’re talking about the new manager for the prem next season

[ChicagoLion]

Pretty amazing anyone could think that sacking the manager now is either a. desirable or b. within the realms of possibility.

I am far from convinced by Bruce, but whilst in a play off position, with five games of the regular season to go, sacking the manager?

That's the sort of thing shitty plastic clubs like Crystal Palace do.

We don’t know what is going on behind the scenes, if he has lost the plot and if the players are beginning to doubt him then carrying on as we are is a bigger risk than doing something about it.
Of course it is unlikely to happen.

[olaftab]

Can we please not declare failure until he has actually failed to reach his target of Promotion

Automatic promotion is gained by finishing first or second. That was his target and spin it anyway you like but he has failed.