Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[Keeno]

our style is called let's pretend Scott Hogan is Christian Benteke.

If we were coherently trying to play like shithouse Cardiff do, I would prefer that. Because while I don't like that football I'd at least understand what kind of plan we were trying to work to. The Hogan paradox is a perfect allegory for Bruce's 'identity' - that is to say, there isn't one, and he hasn't the slightest clue what that concept even means

I notice how Cardiff created more trying to get a draw with Wolves than we did in the last few matches we have needed a goal ..its because they actualy have a limited but effective gameplan ..The difference between us and Cardiff is a game plan and Warnock making shit players look good whilst Bruce makes good ones look shit

On top of this, the amount of respect we have given to teams away from home all year is appalling. Norwich had been in dire form coming into this game, yet in the first half we played as though we were away to Man City. None of the top three teams in the league let the opposition alter their game plan - they impose it on the opposition. Even Cardiff tried to retain their style and (if we're honest) should have got something out that game last night against the best team in the league. Could count on one hand the amount of times we have done that this season.

[Toronto Villa]

our style is called let's pretend Scott Hogan is Christian Benteke.

If we were coherently trying to play like shithouse Cardiff do, I would prefer that. Because while I don't like that football I'd at least understand what kind of plan we were trying to work to. The Hogan paradox is a perfect allegory for Bruce's 'identity' - that is to say, there isn't one, and he hasn't the slightest clue what that concept even means

I notice how Cardiff created more trying to get a draw with Wolves than we did in the last few matches we have needed a goal ..its because they actualy have a limited but effective gameplan ..The difference between us and Cardiff is a game plan and Warnock making shit players look good whilst Bruce makes good ones look shit

Warnock, as much of a cock as he is, doesn't try to be too complicated. He's never really had significant resources; maybe the most was Sheff Utd, but makes do with what he's got. No point be fancy, just have a couple of ways of going about things and get the best out of it. Bruce tries to be clever because now he's got a treasure trove of options. Like Lambert, he's just tossing forwards on without any semblance of a clue what he really is trying to achieve. Watch Cardiff come next week to our place and frustrate us all game before grabbing a late goal and park the bus. It's boring, simple, effective and will get the job done. Villa Park won't be full now, it will be nervous and on edge. Can't fucking wait.

[Toronto Villa]

our style is called let's pretend Scott Hogan is Christian Benteke.

If we were coherently trying to play like shithouse Cardiff do, I would prefer that. Because while I don't like that football I'd at least understand what kind of plan we were trying to work to. The Hogan paradox is a perfect allegory for Bruce's 'identity' - that is to say, there isn't one, and he hasn't the slightest clue what that concept even means

I notice how Cardiff created more trying to get a draw with Wolves than we did in the last few matches we have needed a goal ..its because they actualy have a limited but effective gameplan ..The difference between us and Cardiff is a game plan and Warnock making shit players look good whilst Bruce makes good ones look shit

On top of this, the amount of respect we have given to teams away from home all year is appalling. Norwich had been in dire form coming into this game, yet in the first half we played as though we were away to Man City. None of the top three teams in the league let the opposition alter their game plan - they impose it on the opposition. Even Cardiff tried to retain their style and (if we're honest) should have got something out that game last night against the best team in the league. Could count on one hand the amount of times we have done that this season.

"That's the Championship..." Trademarked by Steve Bruce

[Ad@m]

Has any team previously sacked a manager when in a play off position at this point of the season? Just wondering.

No, and neither should we.

Yes, he's doing a great job.

Yes, but sacking him now would be a tad pointless.

Why? Given our results in the past 5 games it's pretty difficult to do any worse. I have zero confidence Bruce can win the playoffs so if there's someone out there who we'd look to get in the Summer anyway let's just get them in now and let them have a crack at the playoffs.

[Chris Jameson]

I hate to say it but there were a lot of us who knew it would be like this when we appointed Bruce.  Not pretty and potentially very ugly.  Today was as ugly as it gets.

I don’t recall anybody expecting ‘pretty’ football when we appointed him, I thought he was the best available at the time,not a thrilling appointmentbutbased onhis record of getting clubs promoted thought he was worth a go.

[curiousorange]

We've very rarely been that 'you're going to have to everything right not to lose this' team to our opponents in the Championship. Instead, we're more 'this could go either way'. With the money we've spent and the players we've seen, that's what fucks me off most about this period of the club.

[curiousorange]

Has any team previously sacked a manager when in a play off position at this point of the season? Just wondering.

No, and neither should we.

Yes, he's doing a great job.

Yes, but sacking him now would be a tad pointless.

Why? Given our results in the past 5 games it's pretty difficult to do any worse. I have zero confidence Bruce can win the playoffs so if there's someone out there who we'd look to get in the Summer anyway let's just get them in now and let them have a crack at the playoffs.

I don't think there is anyone, that's the point. We'd like a Wagner or a Benitez or a Hughton, but they wouldn't leave their clubs at this stage and it would be insane to get rid of Bruce on the basis that we feel he'll probably lose the playoffs. While there's a chance, he'll be staying put and any probable replacement will be doing likewise.

[Toronto Villa]

I hate to say it but there were a lot of us who knew it would be like this when we appointed Bruce.  Not pretty and potentially very ugly.  Today was as ugly as it gets.

I don’t recall anybody expecting ‘pretty’ football when we appointed him, I thought he was the best available at the time,not a thrilling appointmentbutbased onhis record of getting clubs promoted thought he was worth a go.

me too. I felt he could get us up and was why he was brought in. He's failed once, but he got a pass given RDM's start. Even then he should have done better. There is no excuse this season, and to be this far back of Wolves and especially Cardiff, and in April to be putting in this kind of performance is absolutely unacceptable.

[brian green]

Nobody expected pretty from Bruce.  We expected what we have got.  At best a Slugfest at worst eleven slugs sliming the place out.

[robleflaneur]

our style is called let's pretend Scott Hogan is Christian Benteke.

If we were coherently trying to play like shithouse Cardiff do, I would prefer that. Because while I don't like that football I'd at least understand what kind of plan we were trying to work to. The Hogan paradox is a perfect allegory for Bruce's 'identity' - that is to say, there isn't one, and he hasn't the slightest clue what that concept even means

I notice how Cardiff created more trying to get a draw with Wolves than we did in the last few matches we have needed a goal ..its because they actualy have a limited but effective gameplan ..The difference between us and Cardiff is a game plan and Warnock making shit players look good whilst Bruce makes good ones look shit

On top of this, the amount of respect we have given to teams away from home all year is appalling. Norwich had been in dire form coming into this game, yet in the first half we played as though we were away to Man City. None of the top three teams in the league let the opposition alter their game plan - they impose it on the opposition. Even Cardiff tried to retain their style and (if we're honest) should have got something out that game last night against the best team in the league. Could count on one hand the amount of times we have done that this season.

"That's the Championship..." Trademarked by Steve Bruce

And our daffodils are out.And so should be Bruce.

[Clampy]

Has any team previously sacked a manager when in a play off position at this point of the season? Just wondering.

No, and neither should we.

Yes, he's doing a great job.

Yes, but sacking him now would be a tad pointless.

Why? Given our results in the past 5 games it's pretty difficult to do any worse. I have zero confidence Bruce can win the playoffs so if there's someone out there who we'd look to get in the Summer anyway let's just get them in now and let them have a crack at the playoffs.

Because we could still get up. He's not going to be sacked before the play off's anyway.

[mike]

At whatever point our season ends, the man should be relieved of his duties.

Yep. I’m absolutely fucking done with him.

I think we have more of a chance without him in the play offs.

It’s not going to happen though is it? So no point us fans looking at it as even an option. We’re stuck with him until the end. Whatever that is.

If you were given the choice of saying Terry we need you to get the guys organised for 3 really big games at the end of the season, or carrying on with Bruce’s muddled thinking.
What would you choose.

This is a ridiculous suggestion, nothing like it has happened before and it won’t happen now, plus John Terry is a wanker. However, I  honestly think we”d have a better chance with him than Bruce, fuck me, he’d rise to the  challenge.

That’s the point I was trying to make

I know, I was agreeing with you.

[Chris Jameson]

Nobody expected pretty from Bruce. 

I thought from your post you were implying that some did.

[Ad@m]

Has any team previously sacked a manager when in a play off position at this point of the season? Just wondering.

No, and neither should we.

Yes, he's doing a great job.

Yes, but sacking him now would be a tad pointless.

Why? Given our results in the past 5 games it's pretty difficult to do any worse. I have zero confidence Bruce can win the playoffs so if there's someone out there who we'd look to get in the Summer anyway let's just get them in now and let them have a crack at the playoffs.

Because we could still get up. He's not going to be sacked before the play off's anyway.

We "could" get up if I managed the team so that's missing the point. The real question is what's going to give us the best chance of going up and I'm pretty sure Bruce isn't the answer.

As for the other names mentioned, Wagner might be tempted given how precarious Huddersfield are looking. Hughton might fancy coming to a big club too.

[Clampy]

Has any team previously sacked a manager when in a play off position at this point of the season? Just wondering.

No, and neither should we.

Yes, he's doing a great job.

Yes, but sacking him now would be a tad pointless.

Why? Given our results in the past 5 games it's pretty difficult to do any worse. I have zero confidence Bruce can win the playoffs so if there's someone out there who we'd look to get in the Summer anyway let's just get them in now and let them have a crack at the playoffs.

Because we could still get up. He's not going to be sacked before the play off's anyway.

We "could" get up if I managed the team so that's missing the point. The real question is what's going to give us the best chance of going up and I'm pretty sure Bruce isn't the answer.

As for the other names mentioned, Wagner might be tempted given how precarious Huddersfield are looking. Hughton might fancy coming to a big club too.

If you honestly think Wagner or Hughton are going to walk out on Premier League jobs to try and get us up with 5 games to.go, then i'll have what your drinking or smoking.