Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[Clampy]

He was bought in to get us up - quickly. I'd say he fell at that fence last season but keeping him in charge another season in the Championship who be a complete pisstake

I was hoping he'd get us up last season but I'm not totally surprised he didn't. Only winning 1 game in the first 11 didn't help.

[AsTallAsLions]

He was bought in to get us up - quickly. I'd say he fell at that fence last season but keeping him in charge another season in the Championship who be a complete pisstake

I was hoping he'd get us up last season but I'm not totally surprised he didn't. Only winning 1 game in the first 11 didn't help.

It wasn't his fault last season that we didn't go up. It will be his fault this year if we don't.

[Steve67]

Less money available to us, selling off any potential assets, get rid of the Manager. Hmm, sounds like a plan? Please sir, May I have that job?

Unless we have someone lined up who can work miracles on a budget, manage a fucking huge club and its associated expectations, then I suggest we stay with what we've got. We are third, likely to be in the play offs. Given where we've been over the last five years, that is success in itself.  Hopefully, Bruce is able to work the market again next season and get off to a better start. I wanted him gone and voted for him to leave but I honestly don't think anyone else out there, other than Colin Wanker, will do a better job.

[sickbeggar]

He was bought in to get us up - quickly. I'd say he fell at that fence last season but keeping him in charge another season in the Championship who be a complete pisstake

I was hoping he'd get us up last season but I'm not totally surprised he didn't. Only winning 1 game in the first 11 didn't help.

well you have to ask if promotion was realistic last season, and in that case why employ him? A lot of things wrong with the club weren't his fault, and he has turned the ingrained losing mentality around, but was the promotion or bust mentality needed when if we don't go up this season, we're looking at a 3rd season in the championship? Maybe a more measured building a team to go up and stay up would have been better than loan players and signing old men.

[Clampy]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up first time.

[sickbeggar]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up firat time.

That's because RDM was binned because he couldn't get us up that season, and Bruce could. And as others have pointed out, if we don't go up there is very little of an actual team to play next season once the loans go home.

[olaftab]

Well I would have accepted that under a Manager with more potential than Bruce. We know his strength and also his limitation.  He is just about adequate  second tier manager as has been proved once again this season nothing more. 

[olaftab]

He was bought in to get us up - quickly. I'd say he fell at that fence last season but keeping him in charge another season in the Championship who be a complete pisstake

I was hoping he'd get us up last season but I'm not totally surprised he didn't. Only winning 1 game in the first 11 didn't help.

Just as winning 1 in 7 hasn't helped this season.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Absolutely, just a question of where you do it. Will we have greater stability if we are in the Championship next season? I very much doubt it. Hopefully that won't be the case.

That's not quite what I meant though.  We needed things to settle down after going through Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Black and Di Matteo in the space of however long it was. People wanted Bruce out last season and that would have been boss number 6 since the mumbler went. Do we just  simply change manger every season that we don't go up?

Again I agree with you. Bruce had last season to 'stablise' the club. It's why we generally and more importantly Wyness decided that we would give him a chance this season. I assume given the money spent, the massive squad we have, it wouldn't be asking too much to get us automatically promoted. I'm all for supporting the right manager 'when' he really is the right manager. Even with all his promotion experience (ignoring Di Matteo's Champions League winning experience), he's still failing to convince with what, a few games left to play this season.

I'm clinging onto the idea he's a 'lucky manager' and he gets us promoted but like shit on your shoe, nice chap that he is, I'd want rid as soon as possible. When you're second best to Colin Wanker and look like despite spending more than any other team in the Championship history, you're just "there or there about", you kind of get the idea something ain't right.

Let's rise up and support the team until the end of the season but let's not kid ourselves we're lucky to have him and we're not worthy. My guess is half the managers in the Championship would have had us up this season. I loved taking the piss out of Wolves at the weekend but the fun only lasted 3 days. Guess who's laughing now?

[stuart445]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up firat time.

That's because RDM was binned because he couldn't get us up that season, and Bruce could. And as others have pointed out, if we don't go up there is very little of an actual team to play next season once the loans go home.

No RDM was binned because we'd only won 1 in 11 and was getting worse and worse with every passing game

[sickbeggar]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up firat time.

That's because RDM was binned because he couldn't get us up that season, and Bruce could. And as others have pointed out, if we don't go up there is very little of an actual team to play next season once the loans go home.

No RDM was binned because we'd only won 1 in 11 and was getting worse and worse with every passing game

Revisionism that. On here it was all "we can't get promoted under RDM, bring in Bruce". RDM suffered the hangover of years of Lerner's mis-management and awful signings by crap managers, and while he was struggling he'd been in the job for 12 games with players like Kodjia there barely a month.  If we'd been hammered every game you'd have a point but the main problem was turning draws into wins,

[Risso]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up firat time.

That's because RDM was binned because he couldn't get us up that season, and Bruce could. And as others have pointed out, if we don't go up there is very little of an actual team to play next season once the loans go home.

No RDM was binned because we'd only won 1 in 11 and was getting worse and worse with every passing game

Revisionism that. On here it was all "we can't get promoted under RDM, bring in Bruce". RDM suffered the hangover of years of Lerner's mis-management and awful signings by crap managers, and while he was struggling he'd been in the job for 12 games with players like Kodjia there barely a month.  If we'd been hammered every game you'd have a point but the main problem was turning draws into wins,

That last match at Preston was like something Tim Sherwood or Eric Black might have served up if they'd spent the week before taking a whole load of LSD or magic mushrooms.  It ended up with some sort of bizarre 3-1-1-1-4 formation.

[AsTallAsLions]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up firat time.

That's because RDM was binned because he couldn't get us up that season, and Bruce could. And as others have pointed out, if we don't go up there is very little of an actual team to play next season once the loans go home.

No RDM was binned because we'd only won 1 in 11 and was getting worse and worse with every passing game

Revisionism that. On here it was all "we can't get promoted under RDM, bring in Bruce". RDM suffered the hangover of years of Lerner's mis-management and awful signings by crap managers, and while he was struggling he'd been in the job for 12 games with players like Kodjia there barely a month.  If we'd been hammered every game you'd have a point but the main problem was turning draws into wins,

It's not revisionism. RDM's record was appalling and he was removed accordingly. The sentiment of a group of H&V posters does not, in fact, represent the views of the masses.

[sickbeggar]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up firat time.

That's because RDM was binned because he couldn't get us up that season, and Bruce could. And as others have pointed out, if we don't go up there is very little of an actual team to play next season once the loans go home.

No RDM was binned because we'd only won 1 in 11 and was getting worse and worse with every passing game

Revisionism that. On here it was all "we can't get promoted under RDM, bring in Bruce". RDM suffered the hangover of years of Lerner's mis-management and awful signings by crap managers, and while he was struggling he'd been in the job for 12 games with players like Kodjia there barely a month.  If we'd been hammered every game you'd have a point but the main problem was turning draws into wins,

That last match at Preston was like something Tim Sherwood or Eric Black might have served up if they'd spent the week before taking a whole load of LSD or magic mushrooms.  It ended up with some sort of bizarre 3-1-1-1-4 formation.

Maybe so, but if us playing awful was reason to get rid of a manager, then Bruce would be looking for a new job this week and it wasn't his team by any means. People forget the sheer shiteness of the squad we came down with. Bruce has got rid of them all., but kept quite a few of RDM's signings surprisingly

[sickbeggar]

One thing that does amuse me slightly is people who would have accepted a couple of seasons down here re-building under another manager but  who also think that Bruce should have been sacked because he didn't get us up firat time.

That's because RDM was binned because he couldn't get us up that season, and Bruce could. And as others have pointed out, if we don't go up there is very little of an actual team to play next season once the loans go home.

No RDM was binned because we'd only won 1 in 11 and was getting worse and worse with every passing game

Revisionism that. On here it was all "we can't get promoted under RDM, bring in Bruce". RDM suffered the hangover of years of Lerner's mis-management and awful signings by crap managers, and while he was struggling he'd been in the job for 12 games with players like Kodjia there barely a month.  If we'd been hammered every game you'd have a point but the main problem was turning draws into wins,

It's not revisionism. RDM's record was appalling and he was removed accordingly. The sentiment of a group of H&V posters does not, in fact, represent the views of the masses.

He lost 4, drew 7 and won 1. That's not appalling and quite a few of those draws were imo unlucky.