Quote from: john e on March 10, 2017, 09:01:47 AMthe last game we played the Huddersfield forum to a man said it was the worst game of football they have seen this season, and they won ! yet on our post match thread we are talking positive about our performance, this is denial in a massive way, Context is everything for football supporters when they describe a game.Imagine (if you can) that we are high flying Huddersfield, & we host mid to bottom of the table Villa, who hadn't won a match all year until they started playing the shit teams.Yet, they come here and out play us, & generally make us look a bit shit and ordinary. Somehow we mange to score the only goal of the game and scrape a lucky win, but guess what?- it probably is the worst game we've seen all year!That's a Huddersfield fans perspective of a game they expected to win, but struggled to. It doesn't have to be ours! Villa fans who went to the game thought we played well.Yes it isn't very pretty but this isn't a pretty division. For the last half a dozen games we have won or created enough chances to win. We are improving, slowly, but we are improving. If the direction of travel continues to be that then he should stay, if it doesn't then we have to think again - He has the basis of his team, they are starting to operate more like a team, and I am out of excuses for any further backward direction of travel, so this is it now - let's just see how it goes towards May.
the last game we played the Huddersfield forum to a man said it was the worst game of football they have seen this season, and they won ! yet on our post match thread we are talking positive about our performance, this is denial in a massive way,
Quote from: amfy on March 10, 2017, 01:55:00 PMQuote from: john e on March 10, 2017, 09:01:47 AMthe last game we played the Huddersfield forum to a man said it was the worst game of football they have seen this season, and they won ! yet on our post match thread we are talking positive about our performance, this is denial in a massive way, Context is everything for football supporters when they describe a game.Imagine (if you can) that we are high flying Huddersfield, & we host mid to bottom of the table Villa, who hadn't won a match all year until they started playing the shit teams.Yet, they come here and out play us, & generally make us look a bit shit and ordinary. Somehow we mange to score the only goal of the game and scrape a lucky win, but guess what?- it probably is the worst game we've seen all year!That's a Huddersfield fans perspective of a game they expected to win, but struggled to. It doesn't have to be ours! Villa fans who went to the game thought we played well.Yes it isn't very pretty but this isn't a pretty division. For the last half a dozen games we have won or created enough chances to win. We are improving, slowly, but we are improving. If the direction of travel continues to be that then he should stay, if it doesn't then we have to think again - He has the basis of his team, they are starting to operate more like a team, and I am out of excuses for any further backward direction of travel, so this is it now - let's just see how it goes towards May.I'm not sure I agree with this, I think most teams in the league are at least trying to play and approach games trying to win them, our games have seen a genuine drop in quality because we're setup to be spoilers, that's what I've found frustrating, away from home we seem to want to make ourselves the underdog and drag games down to a scrap.
Some teams do manage to pay entertaining football, but so do we sometimes. How 'pretty' we are needs to be firmly in the context of how terrible we were last year. Teams manage to play better football when they've been together for a while, get a bit of intuitive understanding of each others play, or as a club have a style that the addition of the odd new player doesn't interrupt. We are some way from that. We aren't going to find that instantly by buying the best players from other clubs, but if you can get good players AND form a team from them - then it starts to happen, but it isn't going to rise magically just because we spent a lot of money and Villa shouldn't be losing to teams like Huddersfield.
Quote from: tomd2103 on March 09, 2017, 10:56:34 PMQuote from: SoccerHQ on March 09, 2017, 08:40:00 PMYep I think next season is our most important season in a long while and will probably shape Xia's reign.I agree, but I hope that doesn't lead to a sense of panic. I do think we are getting there and that just a few wise signings in key positions will make a big difference. I'm panicking, because I just don't think we are 'getting there' for me we are moving further away from any cohesive plan for promotion, just buying some decent championship players and 'keeping it tight' in the hope we can nick a goal does'nt count as a proper tactical planit might have got Bruce some promotions in the past but its a massive risk to think this simple archaic plan will work for us next season when its producing zero positive results this seasonthis season has been an absolute disaster from start to finish, the last game we played the Huddersfield forum to a man said it was the worst game of football they have seen this season, and they won ! yet on our post match thread we are talking positive about our performance, this is denial in a massive way, we are in the worst place we have been for as long as I've supported Villa and that's a long time, we are not getting anywhere in my opinion, I just don't see it, I wish I had the faith to see what some of you others do but as much as I look I cant see how there are any reasons to be cheerfulthe Bruce plan is in full swing now, we have got rid or benched any creative talent we had (Ayew, Grealish) theres really no point Bruce playing them anyway as he hasn't the first clue as to what to do with themand we have filled the midfield with warrior types to become a fully fledged Bruce outfit, we are eye bleedingly dull to watch and we still lose more than we win, with very little hope that anything will change in the near future'don't panic' sorry I'm in full panic mode about the Villa at the moment, I just dont get how so many are happy with what they see and think it all bodes well for next season the bar is the lowest its been for decades no need to keep lowering it
Quote from: SoccerHQ on March 09, 2017, 08:40:00 PMYep I think next season is our most important season in a long while and will probably shape Xia's reign.I agree, but I hope that doesn't lead to a sense of panic. I do think we are getting there and that just a few wise signings in key positions will make a big difference.
Yep I think next season is our most important season in a long while and will probably shape Xia's reign.
....so how does that align with us having 20 odd shots a game? Do you belive they have done that despite being told not to?
Quote from: john e on March 10, 2017, 11:57:04 AMQuote from: Drummond on March 10, 2017, 11:44:46 AMQuote from: john e on March 10, 2017, 09:01:47 AMI'm panicking, because I just don't think we are 'getting there' ........ when its producing zero positive results this seasonWe'd won three games in a row without conceding prior to Tuesday's night's unlucky result (and yes, due to 30 seconds of complacency we conceded a goal).I know it's amazing after all this success and just being a bit unlucky here and there we are still 15th in a league full of dross Is there much point in making the point when you're so entrenched in your view that you're unwilling to concede that there's be a positive result this season off the back of our longest winning run in 7 years?
Quote from: Drummond on March 10, 2017, 11:44:46 AMQuote from: john e on March 10, 2017, 09:01:47 AMI'm panicking, because I just don't think we are 'getting there' ........ when its producing zero positive results this seasonWe'd won three games in a row without conceding prior to Tuesday's night's unlucky result (and yes, due to 30 seconds of complacency we conceded a goal).I know it's amazing after all this success and just being a bit unlucky here and there we are still 15th in a league full of dross
Quote from: john e on March 10, 2017, 09:01:47 AMI'm panicking, because I just don't think we are 'getting there' ........ when its producing zero positive results this seasonWe'd won three games in a row without conceding prior to Tuesday's night's unlucky result (and yes, due to 30 seconds of complacency we conceded a goal).
I'm panicking, because I just don't think we are 'getting there' ........ when its producing zero positive results this season